On 2010-01-29, at 6:29 AM, Brett Porter wrote:

> 
> On 29/01/2010, at 4:26 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
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>> -1
> 
> got a reason? :)
> 

We should endeavour to leave only the build time related plugins being locked 
down. Things like the IDE generating plugins, the site stuff, and archetype 
stuff should all be removed eventually and decoupled from the core entirely. 
We're just making a bigger mess tying all this stuff together and trying to 
maintain it as a functioning unit in lock step.

>> 
>> On 2010-01-29, at 6:15 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15/01/2010, at 1:45 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/01/2010, at 12:42 PM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Brett Porter wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps we might only do it for 3.0 if that's the case (esp. since this 
>>>>>> has a very minor chance of incompatibility if the property is in use).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why has the version to be locked down in the first place? Is it to 
>>>>> prevent usage of a snapshot version? If so, I don't think this applies to 
>>>>> 3.0 as it prefers RELEASE over LATEST.
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, I had forgotten about that. That was probably the main reason, but it 
>>>> is also valuable to protect the releases. I think these were ones we got 
>>>> bitten by before:
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/if6sbrsvr2zrvkta
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/fgopqlnnhuecfmnq
>>>> 
>>>> We are likely more careful with the releases, but as it's something that 
>>>> immediately affects all users on a new release, it's probably a little 
>>>> disconcerting.
>>> 
>>> Benjamin, others - any further thoughts on this? I'm still inclined towards 
>>> adding it.
>>> 
>>> - Brett
>>> 
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
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Thanks,

Jason

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