On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
> From Kasun's answers it is quite clear to me that we will need to add > something to Jira where it asks for the operating system for all the Java > projects I work on at the ASF. If the O.S. is Gentoo then we will have to > reject any issues coming from the stuff that comes as part of the O.S. as it > can't be trusted. > > Binary official build also available in Gentoo already. > On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Stephen Connolly > > <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> look, what you are trying to do is move an object of infinite mass, > keeping > >> the lever length and force applied finite. good luck, it will be fun for > us > >> watching from the sidelines... fundamentally maven is about downloading > >> dependencies on demand from the network rather than building from > source... > >> gentoo is about building from source rather than downloading binaries > from > >> the network... > > > > (as a gentoo user myself...) > > > > The bytecode languages don't fit well into the Gentoo model. Even > > though bytecode is an intermediary source form compiled from source, > > Gentoo tries to treat it as a platform dependent binary. The Java team > > then fights a losing battle to cobble together enough accurate builds > > for the library chain to get anything useful to work. Even then, > > because the source bytecode doesn't necessarily match the official > > release, strange issue keep cropping up. > > > > After many problems, I've now opted to uninstall the official Maven > > and Ant packages (and Eclipse...), and use instead a set of scripts > > which accurately and flexibly allow me to configure exactly the > > official bytecode I want to use (a little bit like a better eselect). > > > By official did you meant the upstream packages available as binary like maven-bin? If that's the case, these -bins are the same as upstream build. I guess you meant that since there's only the binary maven is available now. What did you find wrong? > > It has always struck me as somewhat ironic that if the Gentoo team > > donned their clue-hats and treated bytecode as the source form then > > they might quickly have one of the best development environments for > > the bytecode languages... > I too kind of agree to this since the point being the built jars are platform independent. If anybody like to know the points for it - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/why-build-from-source.xml I'm not going to discuss why building from source is good or bad any further and is off-topic! ;) Regards, --Kasun -- ~~~*******'''''''''''''*******~~~ Kasun Gajasinghe, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka. Blog: http://blog.kasunbg.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/kasunbg
