On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > I am aware the Maven never does schema checking but that it complains when > processing the pom when it sees things that aren't part of the model. So if > IIUC you are just taking advantage of a place that Maven isn't rigorous in > its validation. That would be fine.
Ralph, sorry to have assumed that you knew less, rather than more, than I did. We're now on the same page in any case. --benson > > Ralph > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > >> I think that your understanding is oversimplified, with all due respect. >> >> Yes, there is an xml schema emitted by modello. However, no, no >> version of maven checks poms against a schema. So, it is possible to >> make changes to the pom that are compatible with Maven 2, by the >> expedient of testing that they are, in fact, compatible. In particular >> Maven 2 pays no attention to attributes on <url/> elements. So adding >> them can't break it. >> >> Now, anyone who adds the attributes has to use a new enough >> maven-release-plugin to get the benefit of them. >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:55 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> >> wrote: >>> i think I'm missing something. My understanding has been that any file >>> named pom.xml that isn't compliant with 4.0.0 is going to break Maven 2 >>> users. Am I misunderstanding something about what is being proposed? >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> >>>> I think Herve said so. >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:50 AM, John Casey <jdca...@commonjava.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/29/11 7:45 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>> thereof? Does anyone hate it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm just a bit behind on mail, but need a clarification - in Maven the >>>>>>> XSD is an end result of the model that is generated, but you seem to >>>>>>> describe it here as an input. Am I misreading? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been assuming that the XSD file is a manual production, but I >>>>>> didn't actually check. I guess that modello might be in the business >>>>>> of excreting XSD files, too. So my more recent email is a bit wrong. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, Modello is used to generate the XSD. So the next question that comes >>>>> up is: can we generate an XSD like you describe using Modello? >>>>> >>>>> If we can, I think this is a pretty decent plan, actually...the best of >>>>> limited options, IMO. >>>>> >>>>> If we get the alternative format work done later, then we escape the need >>>>> to live with the format forever too. So, the danger that we're adding to >>>>> our ball of tape and chewing gum is limited by that. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're suggesting a change to the model that is backwards compat >>>>>>> API-wise with 4.0.0, and has identical behaviour (or graceful >>>>>>> degradation) when read from the repository by<= 3.0.3, then I don't see >>>>>>> any problem with a particular change. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, that's precisely the idea. Some new accessors appear in the >>>>>> model, and if you don't bother them, they won't bother you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Brett >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Brett Porter >>>>>>> br...@apache.org >>>>>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Casey >>>>> Developer, PMC Chair - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) >>>>> Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
