I take the simple view that if it ends up in
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/releases/ then it
is a release therefore the release voting rules apply... But I am
willing to accept if the majority want to put a different criteria on
what constitutes a release

On 17 August 2011 12:55, Stephen Connolly
<[email protected]> wrote:
> That assumes that nobody outside of Apache inherits from these shared poms...
>
> A scary assumption to make IMHO
>
> On 17 August 2011 12:50, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This tees off of a remark in the recent vote thread about the
>> disruption to CI of pom releases.
>>
>> I don't believe that we need the full ASF release voting process for
>> our internal shared POMs.
>>
>> I reason as follows:
>>
>> The Apache release process creates a particular legal status for a
>> body of code. This has certain advantages for users and developers.
>>
>> However, that assumes that there are users! However, these POMs are
>> not intended for use by anything except other pieces of Maven (the
>> global ASF pom might be an exception). Thus, they should be viewed as
>> part of the releases of Maven itself and the components and plugins,
>> not as independent releases.
>>
>> To build any of our user-visible components from source, you need to
>> use the right parent POM (give our take our friend at Gentoo).
>> Arguably, what we need here is a tweak to the source plugin, or some
>> other plugin, that could sweep the chain of parents into 'the
>> release', or at least enumerate them. We could then argue that,
>> maven-release-plugin aside, the shared poms are formally 'released'
>> when the components that use them are releases.
>>
>> If this argument holds water, the shared poms could be pushed via the
>> maven-release-plugin via lazy consensus, and the CI problems go away.
>>
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