Sure, I'll let someone the PMC call the vote. Happy to do the work once that's 
taken care of.

On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote:

> I'm fine, but process says you should call a vote to change the
> dependency from the ASL version to the EPL licensed version. Yes there
> was a vote before, but the circumstances have changed, and hence there
> is strong likelyhood (IMHO) that a re-vote might result in a different
> answer
> 
> -Stephen
> 
> On 10 November 2011 13:50, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So are people fine with using Aether 1.13. I've already got the necessary 
>> changes if we want to go ahead with that.
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/11/2011, at 8:43 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You guys decided you wanted to wait so let's just wait. I didn't think it 
>>>>> would take this long to get through either but it is what it is. So 
>>>>> realistically we're looking at 3.0.4 in 4 weeks.
>>>> 
>>>> But it could also be longer.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, but that's the decision you made.
>>> 
>>>> I don't see why we should treat the existing EPL release any differently 
>>>> than if it were to be released from Eclipse at this point.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I tried to explain this a month ago. The code is all Sonatype 
>>> copyright, and EPL. Wherever the code is that fact remains the same.
>>> 
>>>> Going to Eclipse is a positive step from now, there will be better 
>>>> transparency and governance, but arriving there is not the end of the 
>>>> road. It's going to be even longer that it is more diverse, graduates the 
>>>> incubator there, and becomes just consumable as a dependency.
>>>> 
>>>> If someone wants to do a 3.0.4 release, they should do it, whether that 
>>>> doesn't include this fix, or delivers it as a patch on the version we're 
>>>> using, or uses the EPL version from Github. If nobody is prepared to do a 
>>>> release now, that's fine too, but they shouldn't have to sit around 
>>>> waiting. The whole reason I was concerned about Aether in the first place 
>>>> was because we'd get stuck not being able to ship a fix to Maven without 
>>>> getting around another project - we can't let ourselves get into that 
>>>> position.
>>>> 
>>>> In my ideal world, Benjamin would cherry-pick the fix he's already made 
>>>> for the issue Mark is concerned about, release 1.11.1, and we upgrade and 
>>>> someone releases Maven 3.0.4. That wouldn't take long, wouldn't change the 
>>>> direction everything is going, and let everyone get on with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a reason we shouldn't do that?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Because it's far more work than necessary, use Aether 1.13 that is EPL and 
>>> is released. I can update it and start the release process tomorrow.
>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Brett
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Brett Porter
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>> 
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>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
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