On Friday, 17 August 2012, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:

>
> Quoting Stephen Connolly (2012-08-17 13:32:54)
> > If in 50 years time that means that there is still some Maven plugins
> that
> > depend on some of the published Maven APIs from Maven 2.0 then that is a
> > success on behalf of the Maven developers, not a failure to force people
> to
> > upgrade.
>
> I honestly didn't mean to make this into fail/win type scenario.
>
> > > In any case, you've made your opinion clear so I have a different
> > > question then :-) Is there any timeframe you have in mind for this
> > > transition to happen? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? Never? I *assume*
> > > there will come a time where 2.0.11 and 2.2.1 will have to die (i.e not
> > > be featured as download options). I would guess the transition would
> > > start at least then.
> > >
> >
> > Apache releases never die (which is why we cannot stop people (a.k.a.
> > fools) downloading Maven 2.1.0)
>
> I'll try to be less metaphorical next time. I meant when they will stop
> to be supported by their developers.
>
>
> > The links are there to help users that have specific requirements for
> Maven
> > versions, but there is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from going and
> > downloading the older versions, e.g.
> > http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/
>
> I am aware of archive, but having download available does not mean that
> version is alive. Or should I try bugreporting against those old
> versions? My guess is that those bugs would be just closed as "won't
> fix". So in that sense, I believe 3.x is basically the only alive
> version of Maven. 2.2.x and 2.0.x branches will likely not receive any
> security or any major fixes. For you they are "done", and there's
> nothing wrong with that really, but for me it means those versions have
> no active upstream (pretty please take this with a grain of salt). Hence
> the curiosity.


Actually there are a number of minor things to do with inter-op which may
mean I spin a 2.0.12 and a 2.2.2 (specifically the metadata format change
to handle resolving artifacts with classifiers) so not dead yet

>
> > We will probably drop the link for Maven 2.2.1 once we get to Maven 3.1
> or
> > Maven 4.0 (depends on how big a change we think things are)
> >
> > I would suspect that a 3.1 or 4.0 might consider dropping support for JRE
> > 1.5 (given that 1.6 is nearing EOL) in which case we would probably
> retain
> > a link to the last version that only requires JRE 1.5 such as we are
> > currently doing for JRE 1.4 (i.e. the 2.0.11 link). Whether we would drop
> > the 2.0.11 link at that point in time is a different question.
>
> OK. I can live with uncertainty and speculations. This is enough for me.
>
> Thank you!
>
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> Stanislav Ochotnicky <sochotni...@redhat.com <javascript:;>>
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