On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2012/10/11 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>> Yup, the ITs don't seem to run when changes are made. Are they manually 
>> triggered? I waited last night for a while but nothing was happening.
> there are triggered by changes in
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/maven-3/trunk or in core its
> source tree.
> If I correctly read here
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/ they runed around 13H
> ago (depending on nodes some are not used a lot by other asf projects)
> 13H ago is very similar to your last commit time
> 

I waited a while, and if both systems are on UTC the difference between the 
checkin and the build is an hour.

Checkin:
Wed Oct 10 22:48:14 2012 UTC (14 hours, 8 minutes ago)
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1396843

Build:
#203 (Oct 10, 2012 11:07:47 PM) (13 hours ago)

Is it tied to LDAP as I tried to login to trigger the build manually but I 
couldn't log in.

>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 2012/10/11 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>>>> I can look at both of those, maybe we can figure something out in the 
>>>> simple implementation to make it look better. Ant thing looks easy enough 
>>>> to fix.
>>> nice.
>>> BTW some its are failing too:
>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/core-integration-testing-maven-3/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 2012/10/11 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why too much rush ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just find it more convenient to have everything in Git. Makes the 
>>>>>> testing cycle more pleasant and the git svn workflow isn't something I 
>>>>>> personally enjoy. I'm working on the core and it's nothing more than a 
>>>>>> preference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Perso, I will be happy to see similar rush on writing test/doc the
>>>>>>> stuff committed 1,5 month ago !.(despite a number of ping)
>>>>>>> AFAIK (maybe I miss something) using @Inject is not so trivial because
>>>>>>> we need to generate the sisu index.
>>>>>>> Which is very similar to what we do currently with plexus plugins
>>>>>>> which generate metadata.
>>>>>>> So what is the added value for users or plugin developers (except
>>>>>>> using the last "à la mode" @Inject).
>>>>>>> I will be happy to hear the added values (performance ? etc .. ?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll answer these in another post. With the documentation, that will be 
>>>>>> easier.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> regarding last commit regarding logs in trunk, I tested that and the
>>>>>>> artifact transfer progress(download/upload) is now (IMHO) very crappy
>>>>>>> !!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure technically what "very crappy" means. You mean the way it 
>>>>>> visually looks?
>>>>> Yup visible changes for users will be a tons of lines in the console.
>>>>> Maybe it's just matter of log layout to configure (As I didn't have a
>>>>> look I don't know)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Something else when building core with ant bootstrap (sure not really
>>>>> important :-)):
>>>>> 
>>>>> process-classes:
>>>>>   [echo] Using plexus version 1.5.5
>>>>>   [java] SLF4J: Failed to load class "org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".
>>>>>   [java] SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
>>>>>   [java] SLF4J: See
>>>>> http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder for further
>>>>> details.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry I didn't investigate more on the reason.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2012/10/11 Kristian Rosenvold <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> Jason ran the tests based off the git repo and they were fine. There
>>>>>>>> is no problem (I've had my fair share of troubles with the core it's
>>>>>>>> so it's probably been a problem between chair and keyboard).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Unless someone objects I'll file a INFRA jira to port m3-core + IT's
>>>>>>>> sometime later today.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2012/10/11 Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>> So, what is the solution to fixing the ITs that depend on an empty
>>>>>>>>> folder? Put some dummy file there? But then the folder will not be
>>>>>>>>> empty...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So you're going to be working on the core without touching the it's?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Seriously, this discussion is going nowhere. We move both and someone
>>>>>>>>>> speeds 45 minutes fixing the it's.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Den 11. okt. 2012 kl. 00:54 skrev Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we can flip the core, we can still release the core without 
>>>>>>>>>>> flipping the integration tests.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It might actually be better to not move both of those at the same 
>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Kristian Rosenvold 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just two simple projects that have some very simple fixes that
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to be done (git does not preserve empty directories and I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>> recall that a couple of it's failed due to this).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I say we do the 3.1 release off git ;) Move both.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/10 Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see no reason they need to be migrate at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So in chatting with Kristian it appears the the core is ready to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flip, while the integration tests need some work. Can we flip 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the core and work on the core integrations test afterward?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> believe nothing, no matter where you read it,
>>>>>> or who has said it,
>>>>>> not even if i have said it,
>>>>>> unless it agrees with your own reason
>>>>>> and your own common sense.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Buddha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
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