So it is not to create the shaded artifact at a different coordinate
without requiring the creation of an additional module?

I agree it seems a tad insane, but if we could get bentmann to chime in as
to what it is actually supposed to do, then I think we can make a correct
decision...

Of course the code may not work... Which is a different issue...

But having to create a module with a Pom that has to be kept in sync just
to put the shaded artifact with dependency reduced Pom at a different
coordinate... Does seem wasteful... Otoh how is the reactor to know the
artifact will magically appear and hence produce the correct build plan...

So I have nearly convinced myself that it is insane... But let's ask!

On Sunday, 25 November 2012, Benson Margulies wrote:

> I am fairly depressed here, and I agree with Anders.
>
> The shadedArtifactId was added in svn rev 640405 by bbentman.
>
> The log for that change consists of:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> r640405 | bentmann | 2008-03-24 09:17:58 -0400 (Mon, 24 Mar 2008) | 1 line
>
> o Added svn:eol-style=native
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> That really does not shed any light. Further, the name is completely
> misleading. it does not, in fact, change how the attach happens, it is
> just a baroque means of specifying the final name in pieces. So I
> modify my proposal to consist of:
>
> attach
>
> attachClassifier
>
> outputDirectory
>
> finalName
>
> no sub-objects.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Anders,
> >
> > I'm willing to go on a history expedition to see who added the
> > feature. The MavenProjectHelper API suports this feature, let alone
> > the naked MavenProject API.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Anders Hammar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> > How would you attach an artifact with a DIFFERENT artifactId than the
> >>> > project? It doesn't make sense.
> >>>
> >>> This is *already* a feature of the plugin. I didn't invent it, I'm
> >>> just trying to clean up how your configure it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Why would you try to clean up how to configure something that doesn't
> make
> >> sense and is plain wrong? Maven is about best-practices and we should
> help
> >> people do the right thing.
> >>
> >> And btw, finalName should be nuked out of the Maven world. :-)
> >>
> >> /Anders
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > I would vote for doing changes that make it impossible to use the
> plugin
> >>> as
> >>> > I-would-like-to-create-any-file-the-way-i-used-to-with-Ant solution.
> I
> >>> > think that the possibilities to alter the final name of the built
> >>> artifact
> >>> > fools people into thinking that you can specify the name of the
> artifact.
> >>> > You migth be able to specify the name of the build file in the build
> >>> > folder, but that's not something you should create a build solution
> >>> around.
> >>>
> >>> Well, finalName in the pom itself has this effect on the main
> >>> artifact, so, for better or worse, people build things that depend on
> >>> it all the time. *I* build things that depend on the use of the pom
> >>> element to flush version numbers from war files.
> >>>
> >>> So I, personally, am not comfortable with flushing finalName from the
> >>> picture.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > /Anders
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Benson Margulies <
> [email protected]
> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Shade has a collection of related parameters for controlling where
> the
> >>> >> results end up. To me, they feel like a collection of individual
> items
> >>> >> that are fairly confusing to the reader of the documentation.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Since I'm planning to bump the major version and change the
> behavior,
> >>> >> I'd like to consider rationalizing all of them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It seems to me that there are, in fact, three modes of operation:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 1) replace the primary artifact of the project.
> >>> >> 2) attach an artifact with the user's choice of artifactId and
> >>> classifier.
> >>> >> 3) just drop a file someplace.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In modes (1) and (2), it's also reasonable for the user to control
> the
> >>> >> filename in the output directory, since every other plugin seems to
> >>> >> allow that.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So, what do people think of the following:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Four parameters:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> <attach>true/false</attach>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> <attachArtifact>
> >>> >>    <artifactId/>
> >>> >>    <classifier/>
> >>> >> </attachArtifact>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> <outputDirectory/>
> >>> >> <finalName/>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This puts all the information about the attached result in one
> place.
> >>> >> Shade is the only plugin I know that allows you to attach with your
> >>> >> choice of artifactId.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> To replace the primary artifact,

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