On 17 December 2012 17:28, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2012/12/17 Stephen Connolly <[email protected]>:
> > Now the above could be fixed... but *somebody* needs to write some code
> to
> > make them fixed. In the absence of anyone writing such code and
> committing
> > it, those branches are dead... as are those choices.
> >
> > IF YOU WANT TO SPONSOR ONE OF THOSE BRANCHES THEN WRITE THE DAMN CODE TO
> > GET THEM WALKING AGAIN
> >
> > That leaves logback and log4j2 on the table...
> >
> > JvZ has said that logback passes the ITs
> > I have asked quite pointedly that Olivier (or anyone who is advocating
> for
> > log4j2) would run the ITs and provide confirmation that log4j2 passes the
> > ITs.
> branch logging/slf4j-log4j2 pass it (at least locally) and with this
> jenkins job
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/core-integration-testing-maven-3-jdk-1.6-log4j2/


Thank you. I will take that as PASSES (confirmed)... I assume JvZ will now
rush to demonstrate Mr Jenkins passing for his branch so he can move up
from PASSES (unconfirmed) ;-)


>
> >
> > I would expect the "other" side in either choice, or an independent third
> > party (such as Mr Jenkins if he can be made to get the integration tests
> to
> > pass at all) to provide confirmation that their "opposition" either has a
> > branch that passes the integration tests or a claim that they are needing
> > to give better proof.
> >
> > Now into that maelstrom Benson struck with his $0.02... arguing against
> > log4j2 (for now) which kind of leaves us with logback (unless one of the
> > other branches is brought back from the dead by somebody writing some
> > code...)
> My 0.02 euros.
> Perso I use log4j2 for months without any issue.
> And performance are good. Even here with Maven ! (See various reports
> from folks on the other thread)
> I read http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/performance.html (agree
> benchmarks depends on various factors (and could be maybe different if
> runed somewhere else) but that's something to take care.
> Then Log4j2 is a community developpement effort and have a good
> license for our Maven.
>

These kinds of things are the things we should be debating... so far I have
not seen much debate... But I have been waiting to get some options through
the technical gates first before trying to stir up any non-technical
debates.


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