this will work as well, thank you for the idea.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0-alpha-1
From: Nigel Magnay <[email protected]>
To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
Date: Tue 09 Apr 2013 03:47:21 AM CDT
> This keeps coming up, over and over and over.
>
> e.g:
> http://maven.40175.n5.nabble.com/Meta-information-about-dependencies-in-a-pom-td4971927.html
>
> The maven 'answer' seems to amount to 'hard cheese, you must re-specify
> each and every one of your dependencies again in your plugin config'. And
> then pointing to the configuration horror that is the assembly plugin, and
> completely ignoring the duplication of, like, every single dependency in
> your use-case. And if your language has scopes other than the burnt-in ones
> in maven, double-hard cheese with a cherry on top - welcome to screenfuls
> of warnings and a non-working transitive dependency mechanism.
>
> Despite the fact you're already paying the XML tax (so each dependency
> takes 5 lines in your POM file, compared to single lines in other tools),
> *and* the fact that XML has a well-defined capability with namespaces to
> compatibly extend the data (and have those extensions easy to strip out),
> maven refuses to contemplate this, it seems.
>
> How about
>
> <project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0";
> xmlns:karaf="maven:plugin:com.apache:karaf"
> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
> xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0
> http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd";>
>
> ....
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>com.example</groupId>
> <artifactId>bundle</artifactId>
> <version>1.0.1</version>
> <karaf:osgiStartLevel>99</karaf:osgiStartLevel>
> <karaf:bootInstall>true</karaf:bootInstall>
> </dependency>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Andrei Pozolotin <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>> Hervé:
>>
>> thank you for taking the time to respond.
>>
>> issue at hand:
>>
>> karaf
>> http://karaf.apache.org/
>>
>> has features.xml, which are built from pom.xml
>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest-2.3.x/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>
>> what is missing from maven is the ability to communicate arbitrary
>> custom attributes
>> on per-dependency basis, such as:
>>
>> provide osgiStartLevel value, to specify to osgi runtime bundle start
>> level:
>> <dependency>
>> <groupId>com.example</groupId>
>> <artifactId>bundle</artifactId>
>> <version>1.0.1</version>
>> <osgiStartLevel>99</osgiStartLevel>
>> </dependency>
>>
>> or provide karafBootInstall flag, to specify that karaf runtime should
>> install this dependency at boot-time vs build-time:
>> <dependency>
>> <groupId>com.example</groupId>
>> <artifactId>bundle-feature</artifactId>
>> <version>1.0.1</version>
>> <classifier>features</classifier>
>> <type>xml</type>
>> <karafBootInstall>true</karafBootInstall>
>> </dependency>
>>
>> in lieu of these, karaf-maven-plugin is trying to encode this
>> information via <scope>
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/karaf/blob/trunk/tooling/karaf-maven-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/tooling/features/InstallKarsMojo.java#L215
>>
>> which contradicts the dependency resolution rules and really does not work.
>>
>> hence my request to "relax". is there any other ways to address this need?
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0-alpha-1
>> From: Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]>
>> To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thu 04 Apr 2013 01:21:32 AM CDT
>>> AFAIK, there is nothing "relaxed" from Mven 3.0.x planned
>>>
>>> But I don't really understand your case (and miss time to investigate in
>>> Karaf).
>>> Can you give us a pointer to SCM, or paste such a dependency "with custom
>>> tags"?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Hervé
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 3 avril 2013 08:51:01 Andrei Pozolotin a écrit :
>>>> I am curious if 3.1.0 will be more relaxed with custom tags inside
>>>> <dependency>?
>>>>
>>>> Use case: karaf-maven-plugin uses bizarre conventions
>>>> on how to map from <scope> into osgi bundle properties (like start
>> level)
>>>> because there is no way to have a custom tag in <dependency> and express
>>>> this requirement.
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0-alpha-1
>>>> From: Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Tue 02 Apr 2013 12:04:18 PM CDT
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Staged documentation: http://maven.apache.org/ref/3.1.0-alpha-1/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hervé
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le lundi 1 avril 2013 08:12:09 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>>>>>>> Here are the release bits for 3.1.0-alpha-1:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Release notes:
>>>>>>>
>> https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&versio
>>>>>>> n=18 967
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Staging repository:
>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-042/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Staged distribution:
>>>>>>>
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-042/org/apache/
>>>>>>> mave n/apache-maven/3.1.0-alpha-1/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone trying this in advance should know that the Site, Dependency,
>> and
>>>>>>> Shade plugin are not going to work. We are aware of this and those
>>>>>>> responsible for those plugins are looking into it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>>>> Founder, Apache Maven
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>> Founder, Apache Maven
>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people
>> can
>>>>> fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.>
>>>>> -- Paul Graham
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected]
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>
