Sure, go for it. The less confusing to users the better.

On May 29, 2013, at 1:36 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:

> I'd like to work on Arnaud's idea of error message enhancement in case a 
> plugin fails because of unavailable Sonatype Aether: if you can let me 12 
> more 
> hours from now, I'll do it tonight
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hervé
> 
> Le mardi 28 mai 2013 19:21:52 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
>> I'll see if Robert wants to fix the DOAP file and I'll respin tomorrow after
>> he's commented.
>> On May 28, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Stephen Connolly 
> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yep.... looks fine to me. If you want to respin now, from _my_ PoV
>>> *should*
>>> be no issues now... of course who knows what will crop up with the next
>>> review ;-)
>>> 
>>> On 29 May 2013 00:07, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote:
>>>> This should suffice for the notice:
>>>> 
>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0a83f
>>>> 62
>>>> 
>>>> On May 28, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>> 
>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> From my PoV the only outstanding issue is that the NOTICE.txt does not
>>>>> reflect the fact that it is now Eclipse Aether and no longer Sonatype
>>>>> Aether.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am unclear what the exact wording that is required, I am hoping that
>>>>> somebody else can correct the file. All the license header issues are,
>>>>> to
>>>>> my mind, fixed on master and Robert has switched over to
>>>> 
>>>> package-info.java.
>>>> 
>>>>> I'll let Robert comment as to whether he sees the DOAP as a blocker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 May 2013 22:08, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote:
>>>>>> It's very easy to cut another release. If all the fixes are in that the
>>>>>> PMC wishes it takes minutes to roll the release again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 28, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Some additional remarks:
>>>>>>> - The copyright doesn't include current year (I've already fixed that
>>>> 
>>>> on
>>>> 
>>>>>> the trunk)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - doap:generate fails: The generated DOAP doesn't respect ASF rules.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just to be sure I understand correctly: these alpha-versions will
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> be released. They are created so users can try them. -1 votes would
>>>> 
>>>> mean it
>>>> 
>>>>>> is not yet ready for a beta or final release. Is this right?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Op Tue, 28 May 2013 10:38:07 +0200 schreef Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> [x] Builds from source bundle
>>>>>>>> [x] Builds some complex projects
>>>>>>>> [x] Contains correct LICENSE.txt
>>>>>>>> [ ] NOTICE.txt correctly attributes 3rd party components (See
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> observation 1)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [?] All source files, where appropriate, contain the ASL header (See
>>>>>>>> observation 2)
>>>>>>>> [?] Binary archives bundled within the source distribution (See
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> observation
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On the basis of the NOTICE.txt not acknowledging Eclipse Aether, and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> on that basis I will be voting
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -0.99999 (binding)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The other issues are non-critical but it would be nice to tidy them
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> up...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> nice to have.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Observations
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1. No attribution of Eclipse Aether, only referenced as developed by
>>>>>>>> Sonatype.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2. The following 39 files are missing license headers:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> apache-maven/src/bin/m2.conf
>>>>>>>> apache-maven/src/conf/logging/simplelogger.properties
>>>> 
>>>> maven-aether-provider/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/repository/internal/
>>>> package.html>> 
>>>>>>>> maven-aether-provider/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-artifact/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-compat/compatibility.cfl
>>>>>>>> maven-compat/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/plugin.xml
>>>>>>>> maven-core/lifecycle-executor.txt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/plugin-manager.txt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/project-builder.txt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> maven-core/src/main/resources/org/apache/maven/messages/build.propertie
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/artifact-handlers.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/configuration-management.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/default-bindings.apt.vm
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/getting-to-container-configured-mojos.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/inheritance.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/lifecycles.apt.vm
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/offline-mode.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/plugin-execution-isolation.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/apt/scripting-support/marmalade-support.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-core/src/site/resources/design/2.1-lifecycle-refactor.graffle
>>>> 
>>>> maven-embedder/src/examples/simple-project/src/main/java/org/apache/maven
>>>> /embedder/App.java
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> maven-embedder/src/examples/simple-project/src/test/java/org/apache/maven
>>>> /embedder/AppTest.java>> 
>>>>>>>> maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
>>>> 
>>>> maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.prop
>>>> erties>> 
>>>>>>>> maven-embedder/src/site/apt/cli.apt.vm
>>>>>>>> maven-embedder/src/site/apt/index.apt.vm
>>>>>>>> maven-embedder/src/site/apt/logging.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-model-builder/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-model-builder/src/site/apt/super-pom.apt.vm
>>>>>>>> maven-model/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/model/io/xpp3/package.html
>>>>>>>> maven-model/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/model/merge/package.html
>>>>>>>> maven-model/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/model/package.html
>>>>>>>> maven-model/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-plugin-api/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-repository-metadata/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> maven-settings/src/site/apt/index.apt
>>>>>>>> README.bootstrap.txt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> None of these are actual production code, so I don't see this as a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> blocker
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> for release, but it would be good to tidy them up. Additionally, the
>>>>>>>> embedder examples should have their license explicitly stated to
>>>> 
>>>> remove
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> confusion for anyone pegging the examples to build their own code
>>>> 
>>>> upon.
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In addition I note that there are 432 test resources that do not have
>>>> 
>>>> a
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> license header, however, as test resources it is legitimate to argue
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> the license header could affect the test. It would be good if we
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> that number reduced, but only if we are confident that we are not
>>>>>>>> introducing false test passes in the process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3. There is one (non-test) archive bundled within the distribution:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> maven-ant-tasks-2.1.1.jar
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Given that this specific artifact suffers from the bootstrap issue
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (i.e. it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> needs Maven to build it) and the source is available and this
>>>>>>>> artifact
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> not part of the built code, but rather the build process, I am
>>>>>>>> unclear
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> to what the legal requirement for including this in the source
>>>>>>>> distribution. It would be nice if we had some clarity on the
>>>>>>>> artifact.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OTOH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> it is code under the ASL and the NOTICE.txt perhaps covers it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 25 May 2013 13:51, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Here are the release bits for 3.1.0-alpha-1:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Release notes:
>>>> https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version
>>>> =18967>> 
>>>>>>>>> Staging repository:
>>>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-044/
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Staged distribution:
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-044/org/apache/m
>>>> aven/apache-maven/3.1.0-alpha-1/>> 
>>>>>>>>> Staged Site:
>>>>>>>>> http://maven.apache.org/ref/3.1.0-alpha-1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We all have problems. How we deal with them is a measure of our worth.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Unknown
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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>>>> 
>>>> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
>>>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
>>>> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>>>> 
>>>> -- Thoreau
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
>> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>> 
>> -- Thoreau
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Thanks,

Jason

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Founder,  Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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