As we launched the other thread about removing the Java 6 support after
september I never communicated about this survey but it seems that we have
some readers here as we had 180 replies without doing anything :
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8JhusugPmGW4/viewanalytics

Cheers,


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Stephen Connolly <
[email protected]> wrote:

> That would likely be a fix that any organizations providing longer term
> support would likely backport for their enterprise versions of Jenkins...
>
>
> On 17 July 2013 10:53, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Note that to have the fix and be able to use Maven 3.1.0, jenkins users
> > will have to upgrade which won't be soon for many of them
> > (Myself I'm using the latest really stable one : the 1.480 LTS)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On 17 July 2013 10:09, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2013/7/17 Olivier Lamy <[email protected]>:
> > > > > 2013/7/17 Stephen Connolly <[email protected]>:
> > > > >> On 16 July 2013 23:01, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> >  >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Until Jenkins gets upgraded to 1.520+ at which point the
> (crappy
> > in
> > > > my
> > > > >>> > personal view) Maven job type will be unable to run 1.5
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> The crappy one which doesn't work with Maven 3.1.0 too (I tested
> it
> > > > this
> > > > >>> afternoon)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm sure Olivier will rush to try and defend that job type...
> > > >
> > >
> > > By "defend" I meant that you would go and fix it again!
> > >
> > > I am quite happy to keep bashing that job type... been bashing it since
> > > 2007 BTW and I still haven't stopped having issues with it. For example
> > all
> > > our automated internal release builds in CloudBees cannot work with the
> > > Maven job type and need to be FreeStyle + Maven Build step due to
> issues
> > in
> > > the Maven job type. KK keeps on trying to convince me that some latest
> > > change or other will redeem the Maven job type... and we spin a week
> > trying
> > > to make it work... and we go back to FreeStyle + Maven Build step...
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I prefer to keep my time to maybe update it to get it working with
> > > > > 3.1.x rather than waste my time on mailing list discussions.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Apologize if the response looks rude.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I didn't take offence... I was actually trying to say that you would
> rush
> > > to fix the job type, so your reply was exactly in line with my
> > thinking...
> > > hmmm perhaps my virtual Olivier simulation that I run in my head is not
> > as
> > > inaccurate as I suspect most of my simulations are! :-P
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm probably too upset to not have tested neither take care of that
> > > > before...
> > > >
> > > > First, I agree on the fact the Maven Integration in Jenkins is
> optimum
> > > > especially in the case of non backward compat change in maven core.
> > > > But now we have two options:
> > > > 1. rewrite that but we have to build a compatibility layer for all
> > > > plugins using MavenReporter extension point (and maybe having
> > > > something to move datas to the new model) (probably something to
> > > > discuss on jenkins-dev@)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Meh! I think there is a better way... but that is because I have a
> > > different plan whereby people don't want the old integrations
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2. hack the current one to make it working with 3.1.x too
> > > >
> > > > Perso, I don't have time for 1 (this can take a bit of time) (but I
> > > > have some ideas too :-)).
> > > > So at least we could take care of users and work on 2. (I already did
> > > > that for 3.0.x so I can again not sure for an other time :-))  (btw
> > > > thanks again to Hervé for the work on maven plugins!)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey I'm fine with you getting the job type fixed... I have enough fun
> > > trying to duck and avoid support tickets for the job type I *hate*...
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Can still keep trucking with a FreeStyle + Maven Build Step
> > though
> > > > (and I
> > > > >>> > prefer that way anyway)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> <asJenkinsUser>
> > > > >>> Me too if we backport features from the crappy maven integration
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > >>> freestyle job (automatic dependencies, post build deployment ..).
> > > > >>> What was done in Hudson was good from my point UI (excepted the
> GWT
> > > UI
> > > > >>> which was ugly)
> > > > >>> </asJenkinsUser>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ahem... there are other ways to skin this cat... but the people
> who
> > > know
> > > > >> have been sworn to secrecy under pain of being shot, hung, drawn
> and
> > > > >> quartered before having the entire troupé of Riverdance dance on
> > their
> > > > >> grave... so you'll just have to wait a month of so to find out!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Olivier Lamy
> > > > > Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> > > > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Olivier Lamy
> > > > Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> > > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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