On 11 August 2013 15:02, Dennis Lundberg <denn...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Dennis Lundberg
> <dennisl.apa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 25 July 2013 17:50, Dennis Lundberg <denn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:34 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 25 July 2013 16:55, Dennis Lundberg <denn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Den 25 jul 2013 16:08 skrev "sebb" <seb...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg <denn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > This will be the final release of this shared component. After this
>>>>>>> > release it will retire from the Apache Maven project and move to the
>>>>>>> > Apache Archiva project. See separate vote thread about that.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > We solved 6 issues:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11761&styleName=Html&version=14389
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > There are no issues left in JIRA (except for the one to retire, which
>>>>>>> > I'll close later):
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=11761&component=13272&status=1
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Staging repo:
>>>>>>> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-010/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-010/org/apache/maven/shared/maven-model-converter/2.3/maven-model-converter-2.3-source-release.zip
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Staging site (not synced yet):
>>>>>>> > http://maven.apache.org/shared-archives/maven-model-converter-2.3/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Guide to testing staged releases:
>>>>>>> > http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are the unique SCM coordinates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The SCM URL can be found in the pom file at the staging repo.
>>>>>
>>>>> As already mentioned in another thread, the staging repo URL is
>>>>> temporary (and in fact can be reused for something completely
>>>>> different).
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor does it uniquely identify the code in SCM, as the revision is missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it is not suitable for documenting the SCM coordinates.
>>>>
>>>> In the normal case, where a release is approved on the first round,
>>>> there is only ever one tag in SVN and it will not be changed. In these
>>>> cases I do not see the value of including the revision number at all.
>>>>
>>>> If a release fails on the first attempt, we reuse the tag. This means
>>>> that the tag will exist at multiple revisions. If you are an
>>>> archealogist and find out the revision number of an ancient vote, you
>>>> can look at the date/time of the vote mail and compare that to the
>>>> revision dates in SVN. Still I do not see the value of this. The last
>>>> tag standing is the one that got approved.
>>>
>>> Provided that the tag is not accidentally or deliberately changed 
>>> subsequently.
>>
>> It is not. That is how we work. The only time we ever manually touch a
>> tag is when we respin a release.
>>
>>>> Is there an ASF requirement to include the SCM revision number in a
>>>> release vote? I can't find one.
>>>
>>> This was all discussed at great length already; please see my other
>>> postings on the subject.
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I'm drowning in email at the moment, and have not read
>> up on all threads.
>> A simple yes or no answer will suffice for the moment.
>
> I have now read the threads that are referring to, and have not found
> a single link to any ASF rule stating that we need to include these
> things in a VOTE thread.

So how do you propose that reviewers check the provenance of the files
in the source release?

>>>>>
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>>>>>> Dennis Lundberg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Vote open for 72 hours.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > [ ] +1
>>>>>>> > [ ] +0
>>>>>>> > [ ] -1
>>>>>>> >
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