Hi Ankur, 

I am Bernd, not Ben, but I’ll try to do my best :-)

Your plan looks good to me and your patch for MESOS-1711 seems uncomplicated 
enough to not cause me major problems no matter when it lands. 

Bernd

> On Nov 4, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi ben,
> 
> Thanks for the follow up. I think thats a perfectly fine game plan. I think I 
> can break down things into smaller, more isolated chunks. But from the looks 
> of MESOS-1316 the invocation code and the testing code seems to change a lot 
> (in a good way), so to avoid a bunch of wasted cycles, I was going to hold 
> off a little till it is committed and then go on to refactoring the transport 
> parts. The json config change (MESOS-1248) is completely disconnected to this 
> so I am not too worried about that one.
> The only place where some coordination may be required is the 
> launcher/fetcher.cpp. It seems there are common changes happening between my  
> change https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/ 
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/><https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/ 
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/>> and your 
> https://reviews.apache.org/r/21316 
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/21316><https://reviews.apache.org/r/21316 
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/21316>> which would mean a little rework but 
> it's totally within reasonable limits.
> I think if you get the MESOS-1316 committed and I get MESOS-1711 ( 
> https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483 <https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483> 
> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483 <https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483>> ) 
> in, both of us would get unblocked in a way that we can get a way that lets 
> us concurrently work on MESOS-336 and refactoring fetcher into more testable 
> parts.
> 
> Does this make sense to you or did I misunderstand some part?
> 
> -- Ankur
> 
>> On 4 Nov 2014, at 02:05, Bernd Mathiske <be...@mesosphere.io 
>> <mailto:be...@mesosphere.io>> wrote:
>> 
>> Typo: not -> note
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Bernd Mathiske <be...@mesosphere.io 
>>> <mailto:be...@mesosphere.io>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ankur,
>>> 
>>> I like it, too. However, I cannot refrain from relaying (not my choice of 
>>> word here) to you the advice to break your relatively large patch down into 
>>> smaller parts. My patch for MESOS-336 certainly was, as I know now. My plan 
>>> is to get MESOS-1316 (which is now under review) and MESOS-1248 (which 
>>> should be quick) committed and then rebase MESOS-336 in smaller pieces. If 
>>> you have small pieces, too, I do think we can do this somewhat 
>>> concurrently, as your refactoring seems to affect mostly how the transport 
>>> part works. I am on the other hand mostly interested in the bookkeeping of 
>>> what is in progress, what succeeded, what failed, what has been put where, 
>>> and so on, which can be separated, if we are careful about it.
>>> 
>>> (BTW, I think we need both unit tests and integration tests. And we don’t 
>>> have nearly enough of either.)
>>> 
>>> Bernd
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Adam Bordelon <a...@mesosphere.io 
>>>> <mailto:a...@mesosphere.io><mailto:a...@mesosphere.io 
>>>> <mailto:a...@mesosphere.io>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> + Bernd, who has done some fetcher work, including additional testing, for 
>>>> MESOS-1316, MESOS-1945, and MESOS-336
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Dominic Hamon <dha...@twopensource.com 
>>>> <mailto:dha...@twopensource.com><mailto:dha...@twopensource.com 
>>>> <mailto:dha...@twopensource.com>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Ankur
>>>> 
>>>> I think this is a great approach. It makes the code much simpler, 
>>>> extensible, and more testable. Anyone that's heard me rant knows I am a 
>>>> big fan of unit tests over integration tests, so this shouldn't surprise 
>>>> anyone :)
>>>> 
>>>> If you haven't already, please read the documentation on contributing to 
>>>> Mesos and the style guide to ensure all the naming is as expected, then 
>>>> you can push the patch to reviewboard to get it reviewed and committed.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com 
>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com><mailto:an...@malloc64.com 
>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I did some learning today! This is pretty much a very rough draft of the 
>>>> tests/refactor of mesos-fetcher that I have come up with. Again, If there 
>>>> are some obvious mistakes, please let me know. (this is my first pass 
>>>> after all).
>>>> https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_2 
>>>> <https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_2><https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_2
>>>>  <https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_2>>
>>>> 
>>>> My main intention is to break the logic of the fetcher info some very 
>>>> discrete components that i can write tests against. I am still re-learning 
>>>> cpp/mesos code styles etc so I may be a little slow to catch up but I 
>>>> would really appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Ankur
>>>> @ankurcha
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2014, at 18:17, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com><mailto:an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I noticed that the current set of tests in `src/tests/fetcher_tests.cpp` 
>>>>> is pretty coarse grained and are more on the lines of a functional test. 
>>>>> I was going to add some tests but it seems like if I am to do that I 
>>>>> would need to add a test dependency on hadoop. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As an alternative, I propose adding a good set of unit tests around the 
>>>>> methods used by `src/launcher/fetcher.cpp` and `src/hdfs/hdfs.cpp`. This 
>>>>> should be able to catch a good portion of cases at the same time keeping 
>>>>> the dependencies and runtime of tests low. What do you guys thing about 
>>>>> this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS: I am pretty green in terms of gtest and the overall c++ testing 
>>>>> methodology. Can someone give me pointers to good examples of tests in 
>>>>> the codebase.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Ankur
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2014, at 22:54, Adam Bordelon <a...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>> <mailto:a...@mesosphere.io><mailto:a...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>> <mailto:a...@mesosphere.io>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you Ankur. At first glance, it looks great. We'll do a more 
>>>>>> thorough review of it very soon.
>>>>>> I know Tim St. Clair had some ideas for fixing MESOS-1711 
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1711 
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1711>>; he may want to 
>>>>>> review too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com><mailto:an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just created a review https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/ 
>>>>>> <https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/><https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/
>>>>>>  <https://reviews.apache.org/r/27483/>> It's my first stab at it and I 
>>>>>> will try to add more tests as I figure out how to do the hadoop mocking 
>>>>>> and stuff. Have a look and let me know what you think about it so far.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Ankur
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2014, at 20:05, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com><mailto:an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yea, i saw that the minute i pressed send. I'll start the review board 
>>>>>>> so that people can have a look at the change.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- Ankur
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2014, at 20:01, Tim Chen <t...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@mesosphere.io><mailto:t...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@mesosphere.io>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Ankur,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is a fetcher_tests.cpp in src/tests.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com><mailto:an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am trying to find/write some test cases. I couldn't find a 
>>>>>>>> fetcher_tests.{cpp|hpp} so once I have something, I'll post on review 
>>>>>>>> board. I am new to gmock/gtest so bear with me while i get up to speed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- Ankur
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2014, at 19:23, Timothy Chen <t...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@mesosphere.io><mailto:t...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@mesosphere.io>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ankur,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Can you post on reviewboard? We can discuss more about the code there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com><mailto:an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think there is an issue which is directly in line with what 
>>>>>>>>>> i wanted but the closest one that I could find in JIRA is 
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1711 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1711><https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1711
>>>>>>>>>>  <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1711>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have a branch ( 
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_hadoop_fetcher 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_hadoop_fetcher><https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_hadoop_fetcher
>>>>>>>>>>  <https://github.com/ankurcha/mesos/compare/prefer_hadoop_fetcher>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ) that has a change that would enable users to specify whatever hdfs 
>>>>>>>>>> compatible uris to the mesos-fetcher but maybe you can weight in on 
>>>>>>>>>> it. Do you think this is the right track? if so, i would like to 
>>>>>>>>>> pick this issue and submit a patch for review.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- Ankur
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2014, at 04:32, Tom Arnfeld <t...@duedil.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@duedil.com><mailto:t...@duedil.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@duedil.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Completely +1 to this. There are now quite a lot of hadoop 
>>>>>>>>>>> compatible filesystem wrappers out in the wild and this would 
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly be very useful.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to contribute a patch. Here's a few related issues that 
>>>>>>>>>>> might be of interest;
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1887 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1887><https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1887
>>>>>>>>>>>  <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1887>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1316 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1316><https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1316
>>>>>>>>>>>  <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1316>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-336 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-336><https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-336
>>>>>>>>>>>  <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-336>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1248 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1248><https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1248
>>>>>>>>>>>  <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1248>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31 October 2014 22:39, Tim Chen <t...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@mesosphere.io><mailto:t...@mesosphere.io 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:t...@mesosphere.io>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe there is already a JIRA ticket for this, if you search 
>>>>>>>>>>> for fetcher in Mesos JIRA I think you can find it.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Ankur Chauhan <an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com><mailto:an...@malloc64.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:an...@malloc64.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been looking at some of the stuff around the fetcher and saw 
>>>>>>>>>>> something interesting. The code for fetcher::fetch method is 
>>>>>>>>>>> dependent on a hard coded list of url schemes. No doubt that this 
>>>>>>>>>>> works but is very restrictive.
>>>>>>>>>>> Hadoop/HDFS in general is pretty flexible when it comes to being 
>>>>>>>>>>> able to fetch stuff from urls and has the ability to fetch a large 
>>>>>>>>>>> number of types of urls and can be extended by adding configuration 
>>>>>>>>>>> into the conf/hdfs-site.xml and core-site.xml
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What I am proposing is that we refactor the fetcher.cpp to prefer 
>>>>>>>>>>> to use the hdfs (using hdfs/hdfs.hpp) to do all the fetching if 
>>>>>>>>>>> HADOOP_HOME is set and $HADOOP_HOME/bin/hadoop is available. This 
>>>>>>>>>>> logic already exists and we can just use it. The fallback logic for 
>>>>>>>>>>> using net::download or local file copy is may be left in place for 
>>>>>>>>>>> installations that do not have hadoop configured. This means that 
>>>>>>>>>>> if hadoop is present we can directly fetch urls such as 
>>>>>>>>>>> tachyon://... snackfs:// ... cfs:// .... ftp://... s3://... http:// 
>>>>>>>>>>> ... file:// with no extra effort. This makes up for a much better 
>>>>>>>>>>> experience when it comes to debugging and extensibility.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What do others think about this?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - Ankur
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dominic Hamon | @mrdo | Twitter
>>>> There are no bad ideas; only good ideas that go horribly wrong.

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