Joris,

You make a good point. However, I'm not convinced that `CommandInfo` should
be the well defined construct that people use. Can you please describe
different custom executors, and the overlap between them and how
CommandInfo will reduce that overlap? I'm having a hard time seeing where
CommandInfo will solve all of their cases.

Consider the cause of Thermos (Aurora's Executor), it could never use a
`CommandInfo` struct because it executes a processes graph instead of a
single command.

If the project wants to go down this path, I think generalizing
`CommandInfo` that could capture more cases (ie multiple commands or a
graph of commands) would be a better first step.

What do you think?

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Joris Van Remoortere <jo...@mesosphere.io>
wrote:

> I do think it would be valuable to have a more well defined contract
> between frameworks and custom executors.
>
> As Zameer pointed out a specific framework and accompanying custom executor
> can decide to do that in the data bytes; however, if we started building
> out a few different flavors of executors then it would be great for there
> to be standard way to pass command information to them.
>
> The current model works well in a 1-1 mapping between framework and
> executor binaries. In a world where that is 1-N it means all N executors
> have to use the same method of passing the command.
>
> —
> *Joris Van Remoortere*
> Mesosphere
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Zameer Manji <zma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I'm not convinced this is a valid use case.
> >
> > Mesos is supposed to be a generic kernel for launching "tasks", whatever
> > they might be.
> >
> > In some cases it is useful to launch an executable, in other cases it
> might
> > be useful to launch a series of executables, and in some other cases it
> > might be useful to spawn a thread to do some work. Whatever that might
> be,
> > it doesn't matter to Mesos and the executor and framework are free to
> > establish a contract in `ExecutorInfo.data`, completely independent of
> the
> > Mesos API.
> >
> > I think formalizing this contract between executors and frameworks via
> > CommandInfo is going to introduce more problems than what they solve. If
> > the CommandInfo struct is useful, frameworks and executors can just stuff
> > that into ExecutorInfo.data, however it's not something that they need to
> > adhere too.
> >
> > What's the underlying motivation for this?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:40 AM, haosdent <haosd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For command task, if its `ExecutorInfo` would set with
> `CommandExecutor`
> > as
> > > well?
> > >
> > > Some tickets may relate to this.
> > >
> > > [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-2330
> > > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-527
> > > [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-5198
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Vinod Kone <vinodk...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > We are contemplating whether to allow both CommandInfo and
> ExecutorInfo
> > > on
> > > > TaskInfo (MESOS-6294 <https://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/MESOS-6294
> > > >).
> > > > Currently we only allow one or the other. The motivation is to allow
> > > custom
> > > > executors a more structured way to pass information (e.g, command)
> > about
> > > > Task. Right now custom executors have to get this data via
> > > `TaskInfo.bytes`
> > > > which is not ideal.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any custom executors out there that crash if they get Tasks
> > > with
> > > > CommandInfo set?
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Vinod
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Haosdent Huang
> > >
> > > --
> > > Zameer Manji
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Zameer Manji
>

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