Ah you are right, my mistake On Saturday, January 24, 2015, Kasper Sørensen < i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Henry, > > As far as I know the current version on the website [1] is also the latest > release (3.4.1). > > Best regards, > Kasper > > [1] http://metamodel.apache.org/apidocs/current redirects to > http://metamodel.apache.org/apidocs/3.4.1 > > 2015-01-23 20:58 GMT+01:00 Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>>: > > > Would uploading current release Javadocs to the website as separate > > directory would be the good start? > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Kasper Sørensen > > <i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > Nice. Thanks Tomasz. Now I guess we should work on how to bring some of > > > these new documentation items to the website. Any ideas? > > > > > > 2015-01-21 16:47 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Guziałek < > > > tomasz.guzia...@humaninference.com <javascript:;>>: > > > > > >> A new page in the Wiki is now online: > > >> https://wiki.apache.org/metamodel/GettingStartedNewConnectors > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> Tomasz > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Tomasz Guziałek [mailto:tomasz.guzia...@humaninference.com > <javascript:;>] > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:47 > > >> To: dev@metamodel.apache.org <javascript:;> > > >> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Documentation improvements? > > >> > > >> Thanks, it is working now :). > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> Tomasz > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Kasper Sørensen [mailto:i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>] > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:43 > > >> To: dev@metamodel.apache.org <javascript:;> > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Documentation improvements? > > >> > > >> Figure it out :-) You have access now. > > >> > > >> 2015-01-21 12:38 GMT+01:00 Kasper Sørensen < > > i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > >> >: > > >> > > >> > I've been granted admin rights now ... trying to figure out how to > > >> > give you access to write new pages Tomasz ... :-) > > >> > > > >> > 2015-01-20 16:47 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Guziałek < > > >> > tomasz.guzia...@humaninference.com <javascript:;>>: > > >> > > > >> >> I forgot about it actually. However, my INFRA ticket is still > > >> unresolved: > > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8902 Hopefully, some > of > > >> >> you can add me as a contributor to the Wiki when you get your admin > > >> rights back. > > >> >> > > >> >> Best regards, > > >> >> Tomasz > > >> >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> From: Kasper Sørensen [mailto:i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>] > > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 23:22 > > >> >> To: dev@metamodel.apache.org <javascript:;> > > >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Documentation improvements? > > >> >> > > >> >> Hi everybody, > > >> >> > > >> >> I know it's been a while, but I felt like bumping this topic. I was > > >> >> thinking a bit about "what's most important for MetaModel at this > > point" > > >> >> and I think documentation is high on my list, if not highest. If > the > > >> >> wiki is in any way blocking work (Tomasz?) then please raise it > here > > >> >> and let's get it fixed. And while waiting for such a thing we > should > > >> >> still be able to work on the docs - either via emails, > documentation > > >> >> in .md files or whatever. > > >> >> > > >> >> Cheers, > > >> >> Kasper > > >> >> > > >> >> 2014-12-18 21:20 GMT+01:00 Kasper Sørensen < > > >> >> i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>: > > >> >> > > >> >> > Javadocs are now available at: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > http://metamodel.apache.org/apidocs/3.4.1 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > or via this redirect url that we can always make point to new > > >> versions: > > >> >> > http://metamodel.apache.org/apidocs/current > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Kasper > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > 2014-12-17 17:02 GMT+01:00 Henry Saputra < > henry.sapu...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > >: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Hi Tomasz, > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Hmm somehow I also do not have admin access to add individual to > > >> >> >> edit access, unfortunately you need to file ASF INFRA ticket to > > >> >> >> get help on this =( > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> - Henry > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Tomasz Guziałek > > >> >> >> <tomasz.guzia...@humaninference.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > >> >> >> > I registered myself at the Wiki, but I believe I do not have > the > > >> >> >> > rights > > >> >> >> for editing. Henry, is that you who can fix that for me? My > > >> >> >> username is "tomaszguzialek". Thank you! > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Best regards, > > >> >> >> > Tomasz > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> >> >> > From: Kasper Sørensen [mailto:i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>] > > >> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 20:04 > > >> >> >> > To: dev@metamodel.apache.org <javascript:;> > > >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Documentation improvements? > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Hi Tomasz, > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Good info too! I like the analogies to existing > implementations > > >> >> >> > - I can > > >> >> >> imagine these are valueable examples for implementors. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Maybe you could start a page on the MM wiki about this? To > begin > > >> >> >> > with > > >> >> >> it could even be just a dump of that email. We can adjust and > > >> >> >> refine it easily when it's in that wiki format I think. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > I would call this page something like > > >> "GettingStartedNewConnectors". > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Best regards, > > >> >> >> > Kasper > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > 2014-12-15 12:48 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Guziałek < > > >> >> >> > tomasz.guzia...@humaninference.com <javascript:;>>: > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Hello Alberto and others, > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> My first thought also was around building new connectors - > what > > >> >> >> >> is the minimum I need to provide as a developer to query a > new > > >> >> >> >> datastore and what I will get "for free" from MetaModel. My > > >> >> >> >> (quick sketch of) step-by-step guide would look like this: > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> 1) Create a new XXXDataContext class that extends > > >> >> >> >> QueryPostProcessDataContext (to get functionalities for free) > > >> >> >> >> that holds a reference to a native API object. Taking > existing > > >> examples: > > >> >> >> >> CouchDbDataContext holds Ektorp' CouchDbInstance > > >> >> >> >> HBaseDataContext holds HTablePool > > >> >> >> >> CsvDataContext holds a handle to a file (through > > >> >> >> >> MetaModel's Resource class, to be precise) > > >> >> >> >> 2) Implement materializeMainSchemaTable to fetch the data > that > > >> >> >> >> is going to represent the table, using the native API. > Existing > > >> >> examples: > > >> >> >> >> CouchDbDataContext fetches a view will all docs > through > > >> >> >> >> Ektorp's CouchDbInstance > > >> >> >> >> HBaseDataContext creates a Scan of a table through > > >> >> >> HBaseTablePool > > >> >> >> >> CsvDataContext reads the whole file using our file > > >> >> >> >> handle > > >> >> >> >> 3) Return a new XXXDataSet instance with the native result > > >> >> >> >> passed as a parameter. XXXDataSet class takes the native > result > > >> >> >> >> object and translates it to the MetaModel's Row objects. > > >> >> >> >> CouchDbDataSet will parse the JSON document and > > >> >> >> >> instantiate MetaModel's Row object with this data > > >> >> >> >> HBaseDataSet extracts the values from the Scan and > > >> >> >> >> instantiates MetaModel's Row object with the values > > >> >> >> >> CsvDataSet translates a line from a CSV file into > > >> >> >> >> MetaModel's Row object > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> This is the minimum that needs to be implemented. While we > have > > >> >> >> >> the native result translated to MetaModel's Row objects, > > >> >> >> >> selecting specific columns, filtering and so on we get for > free > > >> >> >> >> from QueryPostProcessDataContext class that we subclassed. Of > > >> >> >> >> course, it is not the most performant way of querying, for > > >> >> >> >> example doing a full scan to get a single row by its primary > > >> >> >> >> key is optimized in > > >> >> many databases. > > >> >> >> >> Delegating primary key lookups, count queries, queries with > > >> >> >> >> simple WHERE clauses to the native API instead of > > >> >> >> >> post-processing it in Java is the next step for a developer > of > > a > > >> new MetaModel connector. > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I would benefit a lot from such a guide at the beginning of > my > > >> >> >> >> journey with MetaModel... > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Best regards, > > >> >> >> >> Tomasz > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> >> >> From: Alberto Rodriguez [mailto:ardl...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>] > > >> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:42 > > >> >> >> >> To: dev@metamodel.apache.org <javascript:;> > > >> >> >> >> Cc: juan.rodriguez.hort...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Documentation improvements? > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Hi all, > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> When I first came across the project I wasn't sure how and > > >> >> >> >> where MM > > >> >> >> "plays" > > >> >> >> >> with the data. I mean, for the different datasources I didn't > > >> >> >> >> know whether MM was fetching the data in memory and then > > >> >> >> >> performing joins, selects and so on or was delegating this > > >> >> >> >> behaviour to the native drivers. The table that you guys put > > >> together in the wiki: > > >> >> >> >> QueryExecutionStrategies < > > >> >> >> >> https://wiki.apache.org/metamodel/QueryExecutionStrategies> > is > > >> >> >> >> quite > > >> >> >> clarifying. > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> In my particular case, as we needed new connectors that > wasn't > > >> >> >> >> implemented yet and decided to contribute to the project > > >> >> >> >> implementing them, I was "fighting" with the code from day 0 > > >> >> >> >> and I must say that the code is pretty self-explanatory. > Kasper > > >> >> >> >> has been done a great job and if you have some Java > experience > > >> >> >> >> you might have a new connector ready-to-use within few days. > I > > >> >> >> >> think we should make an effort and try to share this with the > > >> >> >> >> world, MM is great as it is now but I think one of its main > > >> >> >> >> powerful features is that you can create your own connectors > > >> >> >> >> without much effort. It might be a good idea to create a > > >> >> >> >> section on the website like "Create your own connectors" and > a > > >> >> >> >> guide > > >> >> >> to implement them. What do you think? > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I would also be more than happy to help in any decision we > take > > >> >> >> >> regarding the documentation. > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Kind regards, > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> 2014-12-12 9:32 GMT+01:00 Kasper Sørensen > > >> >> >> >> <i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > >> >> >> >> >: > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > Hi Juan, > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > Thanks for that feedback. I think it helps a lot to see > what > > >> >> >> >> > relevant and good information we already have (some of it > on > > >> >> >> >> > third party sites > > >> >> >> >> > - we should look to integrate it some more) and also what > we > > >> >> >> >> > should improve (the javadoc thing is such a simple thing - > > >> >> >> >> > I'll create a JIRA issue about doing it ASAP). > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > Kasper > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > 2014-12-11 20:36 GMT+01:00 Juan Rodríguez Hortalá < > > >> >> >> >> > juan.rodriguez.hort...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>: > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > Hi all, > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > I don't have a lot of experience with Metamodel, I did my > > >> >> >> >> > > first > > >> >> >> >> > experiments > > >> >> >> >> > > with it in the capstone project for a MSc, and then I > used > > >> >> >> >> > > it in my work combined with Apache Sqoop to import data > > >> >> >> >> > > from a relational database, > > >> >> >> >> > where > > >> >> >> >> > > Metamodel was in charge of obtaining the data schema. But > > >> >> >> >> > > maybe my > > >> >> >> >> > limited > > >> >> >> >> > > experience could be of use for answering this question. > > >> >> >> >> > > I think I discovered Metamodel when searching the > internet > > >> >> >> >> > > for a way to connect a BI visualization tool with HBase. > As > > >> >> >> >> > > the starting points I > > >> >> >> >> > used: > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > * This post > > >> >> >> >> > > http://www.infoq.com/articles/apache-incubator-metamodel > > by > > >> >> >> >> > > Kasper, which I think is a pretty good quick start, with > > >> >> >> >> > > several > > >> >> >> code snippets. > > >> >> >> >> > > * This other post > > >> >> >> >> > > > > http://kasper.eobjects.org/2013/06/introducing-apache-metam > > >> >> >> >> > > ode l.ht ml by Kasper, which is more about concepts and > > the > > >> >> >> >> > > origin of Metamodel. > > >> >> >> >> > > * The code examples from the site > > >> >> >> >> > > http://metamodel.apache.org/#examples > > >> >> >> >> > > also help. > > >> >> >> >> > > * I also generated the Javadoc documentation, and put it > > >> >> >> >> > > in my github > > >> >> >> >> > for > > >> >> >> >> > > easy access > > >> >> >> >> > > http://juanrh.github.io/doc/ApacheMetamodel/apidocs/ > > >> >> >> >> > > (I hope that is ok for you, by the way!). > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > As I said, I haven't done anything much sophisticated, > but > > >> >> >> >> > > I do think the javadoc documentation and API structure is > > >> >> >> >> > > pretty intuitive. What I miss most is documentation about > > >> >> >> >> > > the design and architecture so I can > > >> >> >> >> > understand > > >> >> >> >> > > the implications in performance of using Metamodel in > > >> >> >> >> > > different ways. I think that is important because that > > >> >> >> >> > > could determine whether Metamodel could be applied or not > > >> >> >> >> > > for a particular problem. But these are just my personal > > >> >> >> >> > > subjective > > >> >> impressions. > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > TL;DR: In my opinion the blog post > > >> >> >> >> > > http://www.infoq.com/articles/apache-incubator-metamodel > > is > > >> >> >> >> > > a good candidate for the "getting started" guide for > > >> Metamodel. > > >> >> >> >> > > Also an updated version of the javadoc documentation > hosted > > >> >> >> >> > > in the site would > > >> >> >> >> be nice. > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > Greetings, > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > Juan > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > 2014-12-11 18:47 GMT+01:00 Kasper Sørensen < > > >> >> >> >> > i.am.kasper.soren...@gmail.com <javascript:;> > > >> >> >> >> > > >: > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Hi all, > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Discussed with a colleague the other day the perception > > >> >> >> >> > > > of MetaModel > > >> >> >> >> > when > > >> >> >> >> > > > coming to the project as a newcomer (new in our company > > >> >> >> >> > > > and approaching > > >> >> >> >> > > the > > >> >> >> >> > > > community). He mentioned that the documentation was too > > >> >> >> >> > > > sparse for him > > >> >> >> >> > to > > >> >> >> >> > > > get a good insight by just browsing our website and > wiki. > > >> >> >> >> > > > A proper > > >> >> >> >> > > getting > > >> >> >> >> > > > started and better reference documentation would have > > >> >> >> >> > > > helped him a lot > > >> >> >> >> > - > > >> >> >> >> > > > and improved his overall impression (which has improved > > >> >> >> >> > > > as he started > > >> >> >> >> > > using > > >> >> >> >> > > > it, but wasn't immediately too good). > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > I think that's pretty good feedback - documentation is > > >> >> >> >> > > > important and we have not spent a lot of time on it I > > guess. > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > So are there any "low hanging fruit" we can start by > > >> grabbing? > > >> >> >> >> > > > And what should be the more dedicated efforts that we > go > > >> >> >> >> > > > for > > >> >> >> here? > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > I was thinking of at least publishing our javadocs and > > >> >> >> >> > > > linking to it > > >> >> >> >> > from > > >> >> >> >> > > > our website. That should help a little, but is > obviously > > >> >> >> >> > > > not what he > > >> >> >> >> > was > > >> >> >> >> > > > mentioning. A proper "getting started" guide would also > > >> >> >> >> > > > be great I > > >> >> >> >> > think. > > >> >> >> >> > > > I'm curious which aspects we should stress then. > > >> >> >> >> > > > Especially looking at people not from Human Inference / > > >> Neopost .... > > >> >> >> >> > > > How did you learn about MetaModel and which questions > did > > >> >> >> >> > > > you have (still > > >> >> >> >> > > > have?) and how did > > >> >> >> >> > you > > >> >> >> >> > > > get started. > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Best regards, > > >> >> >> >> > > > Kasper > > >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >