Ok, I'll bite. 

Johnny made some great observations and Intel has been talking about
some of these same topics. Suffice to say there are Linux OSVs who have
publicly committed to support Moblin including Xandros, Linpus, Asianux,
Wind River and Canonical. Some are shipping products for either Mobile
Internet Devices, nettops or netbooks. 

Intel is talking with a much larger number of Linux vendors. I welcome
their opinions on this mail list as well. 

Moblin is and will continue to be a project where ISVs are able to write
applications. Our over-arching goal is to enable applications to work on
the broadest set of Intel Atom-processor-based platforms with the least
amount of change.  

Hope that helps. 

Pete

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
>sandy
>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:24 AM
>To: dev@moblin.org
>Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] OSV ISV collaboration
>
>I am very new to Moblin  and was hoping someone from the Moblin
>community would comment  on Johnny's  note. ISV dilemma may be worth
>giving a thought. On those lines are there any plans for downstream
>variants of Moblin - I see healthcare , automotive etc as some focus
>areas mentioned at Moblin.org. OSVs communicating their plans would be
>useful as well
>
>- Sandy
>
>Johnny Kewl wrote:
>> Hello again everyone,
>>
>> I'm wondering if there is a list of OSV's developing OS's for MID's
>>
>> I really dont understand too well the biz logic behind open source
>> projects... it normally gets me into trouble.. ;)
>>
>> But if I can venture my perspective on the Moblin project...
>>
>> Moblin equates more or less to the "firmware" level... a basic engine
>> that provides a "get going" framework, and a mechanism to get at the
>> respective hardware funcionality, like GPS, 3G, Wireless, Radio, Lan,
>> Video, Storage etc etc
>>
>> Then OSV's are developing above this, some targeting cell networks,
>> some targeting other retail outlets, wholesalers etc.... the
important
>> thing is that this is the OS level... and they will be different,
>> albeit compat with the "firmware level".
>> Some may be targeting games, some alternatives to laptops, some super
>> cell phones, some home theater, some biz applications, some
integrated
>> desktop systems... the scope is huge.
>>
>> Then above this is the ISV with particular applications in mind...
the
>> category I probably fit into.
>> Accountng systems, gaming consoles and periphs... and a million other
>> things.
>>
>> So... I'm thinking that yes there is scope to work together, but
there
>> also has to be the ability to pair off.... ie ISV's have to know what
>> various OSV's are doing... and become early adoptors, and later
>> probably agents for that OSV because they will lock into that OSV.
>>
>> There has to be a mechanism for OSV's working on their specialized
>> area to advertise there intended focus... else ISV's are on hold.
>>
>> If Moblin is going to compete with something like XP embedded, there
>> has to be collaboration, but at the same time, if an ISV is targeting
>> a specialized system in the airline industry, a gaming OSV is
probably
>> no good to them.
>>
>> To expect the ISV to then move down to hardware level and effectively
>> create a whole XP as well as their application... would mean hiring
>> staff under 10 years old because thats how long it would take....
>>
>> Is it at all possible to have some sort of cooperation matirix, or
>> allow OSV's to talk about their offerings... or something so that
ISVs
>> can start working with that particular offering...
>>
>> If ISV's have to wait and wait.... XP will probably be the first
thing
>> they see...
>>
>> Is a wiki or something possible so that OSV's can say... this is what
>> we doing, we into gaming and already have API, or we are creating
>> software dev kits based on python and Java, or this will be a super
>> cell phone and it will support flex and java...
>>
>> Some way to kick off sync'd development....
>>
>> Or is the intension that Moblin will in its conclusion be a modular
>> system that allows for anything, be that radio streaming, gaming, GPS
>> and the maps.... ie Moblin will be a tool for ISV's?
>>
>> As an ISV I'm interested to know what OSV's are out there... thanks
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