On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Leonidas Fegaras <[email protected]>wrote:
> Alex, I see your point. You are right. We need to find something more > appropriate. It's not urgent. > Thanks for understanding Leonidas. Really I hated having to push this point but in the end we would have been disappointed for having to change it later :(. Really sorry for it. > Maybe we should not use the 'miracle' pronunciation too. MRQL should be > pronounced M-R-Q-L, not miracle. It's not important to use this name and > may sound a bit silly and obnoxious. > I agree with Ed's post. The miracle thing is very broad and universal. It could also mean something that was impossible but just happened. I don't think there would be an issue with that in the Incubator. The thing is picking one religious group's icon over another. That's what brings about problems. Again thanks for being a good sport about this. I hate being the harbinger of bad news. It really sucks. Regards, Alex > > > On 04/04/2013 03:21 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Leonidas Fegaras <[email protected]<mailto: >> [email protected]>> wrote: >> >> What do you thing about this logo? >> >> >> http://lambda.uta.edu/mrql-**logo.jpg<http://lambda.uta.edu/mrql-logo.jpg> >> >> Its the elephant-god Ganesha writing code using the Apache feather. >> Leonidas >> >> >> >> -1 (strong) >> >> <mentor-hat-on> >> The use of religious, national, or political symbols are unacceptable for >> a logo/mascot at the ASF. Think about it like this: would a logo with Jesus >> healing a blind man (miracles being performed) be acceptable? Using Ganesha >> is essentially the same thing. Please pick something else as the >> logo/mascot figure. Stay away from religion: it's not our business. >> </mentor-hat-on> >> >> I'll be retarded and fully spell it out for you guys. I'm not trying to >> be a dick about it so please hear me out and understand why. >> >> Personally I think it's cute and again kind of plays on miracles and >> Hadoop's elephant motif. I see what you're trying to do/convey and I >> appreciate it. This would be great if MRQL was not here at Apache. We >> however are in the Apache Incubator and there are rules and "ways" we have >> to follow. So unfortunately you must compromise and can't pick these kinds >> of figures to use for a logo/mascot. >> >> So I'm fine with Ganesha but I hate to think about having someone yank >> the logo out of my hands (and be right for doing so) after I've invested so >> much time and emotion using it for months or a year. It would be a bummer. >> >> Come graduation time it will become another contentious discussion that >> will consume much time and energy. >> >> Although untrue, just presume that I or someone else am insulted by this >> as a non-Hindu. You are opening up a can of worms here. >> >> Can you see this? >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> -- Alex >> . >> > > -- Best Regards, -- Alex
