That should have said non-committer :) I want to see the next report written by a committer (whether that means someone else, or the project recognizing report writing as a contribution).
One other, major imo, note on the board report. This text is not good: "a) Various Slack channels, dev@ mailing lists, and user discussion forums ( http://discuss.mxnet.io) are being used actively. The contributors have been working on having all discussions on the public dev@ mailing list as much as possible. This is an ongoing improvement process where the focus will be to reduce the scope of private discussions to only a few individuals before it is put on the public dev@ mailing list so that the Apache MXNet community gets a fair chance in influencing the final outcome/decision of the discussion." The text is talking about raising the transparency of the project, but that transparency is, even when raised, still below Apache's _minimum_ bar. Saying that the community gets a 'fair' chance is insulting. I'm a strong believer that it is perfectly fine for two or more committers to brainstorm an idea face to face; but there's an immediate tension if that leads to a situation where they strong arm agreement due to the number of folk involved. There needs to be a cost to the lack of transparency, and that cost is a lack of volume in the community discussion. My strong recommendation is that said committers decide on a spokesperson for the idea, that they show restraint in piling on in the debate, and that they recuse themselves from voting +1 on a vote as they already voted when brainstorming the idea. Hen [piling on => an email thread where multiple people all jump on to the thread to say, in essence, the same thing, and wear down an opposing argument through sheer numbers] On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Hen <bay...@apache.org> wrote: > Will review to tonight. > > Noting that I’m going to -1 any report in the future that is written by a > non-committee. > > Hen > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:28 AM Steffen Rochel <steffenroc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear mentors - I posted the MXNet podling report at >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2018#preview . >> Appreciate your signoff or feedback. >> Steffen >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:28 AM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> > Steffen >> > >> > Please follow the instructions at https://wiki.apache.org/incubator to >> > get your account setup (info box at the top). >> > >> > John >> > >> > On 2018/04/09 00:57:37, Steffen Rochel <steffenroc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > Hi John - thanks for your feedback, will update the website >> accordingly. >> > > >> > > Mentors - I don't have write access to incubator wiki, please post the >> > > report. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Stefffen >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 5:43 PM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > You need to get this report posted on the incubator wiki. >> > > > >> > > > Some questions about the report. >> > > > >> > > > You mention that 1.1.0 is available, however I cannot find a >> download >> > page >> > > > on the mxnet website. You must have a download page that points to >> > your >> > > > source release. >> > > > Your downloads must point to our mirror system, not gihtub managed >> > links. >> > > > You also need to fix your website branding, the first mention >> should be >> > > > Apache MXNet (Incubating) >> > > > >> > > > On 2018/04/08 23:01:28, Steffen Rochel <steffenroc...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > > Dear Mentors - attached updated version: >> > > > > - fixed typo >> > > > > - added information about MXNet youtube channel >> > > > > - added PPMC election for Jun Wu >> > > > > >> > > > > Steffen >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM Steffen Rochel < >> > steffenroc...@gmail.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Mentors - please find attached podling report for April >> 2018. >> > > > > > Please approve or provide feedback. >> > > > > > Apologize for the delay. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Steffen >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 7:23 AM John D. Ament < >> > johndam...@apache.org> >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Just to point out - the report was due on 4/4. You'll need to >> > get the >> > > > > >> report in very early to ensure your mentors can review. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> On 2018/04/08 01:45:46, Steffen Rochel < >> steffenroc...@gmail.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > Hi John - we will get a report out tomorrow (Sunday PDT). >> > > > > >> > Steffen >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 5:19 PM John D. Ament < >> > johndam...@apache.org >> > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Is anyone available to write the report? Need some kind of >> > > > response >> > > > > >> from >> > > > > >> > > the podling... >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > On 2018/04/03 02:43:12, Hen <bay...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > Board report time. Any committer available to write >> > something? >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Reminder of the template: >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > MXNetA Flexible and Efficient Library for Deep >> > LearningMXNet has >> > > > > >> been >> > > > > >> > > > incubating since 2017-01-23.Three most important issues >> to >> > > > address >> > > > > >> in >> > > > > >> > > > the move towards graduation: 1. 2. 3.Any issues that >> the >> > > > > >> Incubator >> > > > > >> > > > PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to beaware of?How has >> the >> > > > > >> community >> > > > > >> > > > developed since the last report?How has the project >> > developed >> > > > since >> > > > > >> > > > the last report?How would you assess the podling's >> > > > maturity?Please >> > > > > >> > > > feel free to add your own commentary. [ ] Initial >> setup [ >> > ] >> > > > > >> Working >> > > > > >> > > > towards first release [ ] Community building [ ] >> Nearing >> > > > > >> graduation >> > > > > >> > > > [ ] Other:Date of last release: XXXX-XX-XXWhen were the >> > last >> > > > > >> > > > committers or PPMC members elected? >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ---- >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Previous board report is in here: >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/ >> 2018/board_minutes_2018_01_17.txt >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hen >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:50 PM, <johndam...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2018 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
