I would like to loop this back a layer. Current, there is a discussion in the MXNet Scala community on the ways to implement the Java APIs. Currently there are two thoughts:
1. Make Scala Java Friendly (Create Java compatible methods in the Scala Class. such as NDArray with Java compatible constructor) 2. Make Java friendly wrappers in Scala (Andrew's explanation below) The first approach require minimum input from our side to implement however bring user a bunch of useless api they may not want to use. It also makes Scala package heavier. The good thing is these two packages require minimum maintenance cost. As a tradeoff, if any time in the future we want to make Java big (make Java as the primary language supported by MXNet), then the migration from Scala to Java will be harmful. Spark consider this carefully and decide not to change much on their Scala code base to make it more Java. The second approach will make unique NDArray, Shape, Context and more. The good thing about this is we can always holds a version control on Java. Some breaking changes on Scala may not influence much on Java. It did the best way to decouple the module and good for us to build unique pipeline for Java. The bad thing with this design is the maintenance cost as we need to keep two code bases, but it also make Java side easy to change to make it better compatible with users. Thanks, Qing On 9/27/18, 3:25 PM, "Andrew Ayres" <andrew.f.ay...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Currently, we're working to implement a new Java API and would like some feedback from the community on an implementation detail. In short, the new Java API will use the existing Scala API (in a manner similar to how the current Clojure API works). This basically means that we're making Java friendly wrappers to call the existing Scala API. The feedback we're looking for is on the implementation of NDArray. Scala's NDArray has a significant amount of code which is generated via macros and we've got two viable paths to move forward: 1.) Change the macro to generate Java friendly methods - To do this we'll modify the macro so that the generated methods won't have default/optional arguments. There may also have to be some changes to parameter types to make them Java friendly. The big advantage here is that ongoing maintenance will easier. The disadvantages are that we'll be changing the existing Scala NDArray Infer API (it's marked experimental) and Scala users will lose the ability to use the default and optional arguments. 2.) Leave the existing macro in place and add another which generates a Java friendly version - The biggest issue here is that we'll be doubling the number of macros that we've got to maintain. It'll become even more overhead once we start expanding the Java API with more classes that use generated code like this. The advantages are that the existing Scala NDArray Infer API would remain unchanged for Scala users and that the new macro could be optimized to give the best possible experience to the Java API. Thanks, Andrew