BTW. seams only build JSF-API, 
shipped by MyFaces:

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/gump/project/myfaces.xml?view=markup

How to add the rest?
Must we contact the infrastruce guys on that issue?

-Matthias

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:32 PM
> To: 'MyFaces Development'
> Subject: RE: A few more suggestions
> 
> 
> > I'm not sure what you mean by "instead of". Gump is a 
> different beast
> > entirely, and isn't related to whether you use CVS or SVN. 
> > It's more of a 
> > continuous integration tool, although its goal is to ensure 
> > that changes 
> > in one project don't inadvertently break other projects, 
> > rather than to 
> > work on a project by project basis.
> 
> sure like cruise control!
> Not Gump *instead of* CVS/Subversion ;-)
> instead of migrating process, since we
> here have guys that relay on CVS...
> 
> sorry for missunderstanding email...
> 
> > > Does anybody know much about GUMP?
> > 
> > I'm not an expert by any means. But I know enough to see that
> > MyFaces is 
> > already building successfully in Gump. For example, see the log at:
> > 
> > http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/buildLog.html
> 
> Ah! I expected, that should be setup by a project,
> but still done. 
> 
> Do you also know where the nightly builds are stored?
> or aren't they stored?
> 
> > > Btw. Martin, are you using GUMP inside
> > > of Struts?
> > 
> > Gump isn't typically used by projects themselves. Rather,
> > there is a Gump 
> > installation that builds just about everything at the ASF (and many 
> > projects from elsewhere as well) several times a day. If 
> your project 
> > breaks, you will receive "nag" messages telling you that.
> 
> thanks for pointing this out!
> that was new for me, that it also builds MyFaces.
> -Matthias
> 
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> > 
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matthias
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:35 PM
> > >> To: MyFaces Development
> > >> Subject: Re: A few more suggestions
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Bill Dudney wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Ted,
> > >>>
> > >>> Would it be possible for us to stay in CVS for the next
> > few months
> > >>> then  do the conversion? I've not had to do it myself but
> > I've read
> > >> that the cvs2svn
> > >>> script is supposed to do a good job of moving all the
> > >> history over. Once the
> > >>> IDE plugins catch up we could make the jump.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts?
> > >>
> > >> I'm not Ted ;-) but I would say that shouldn't be a problem -
> > >> depending, of course, on how many months a "few" turns out 
> > to be. ;-)
> > >> But we can cross that bridge when we come to it.
> > >>
> > >> The cvs2svn tool does a great job of preserving
> > everything, history
> > >> and all. Once you're ready to make the move, the usual 
> practice is 
> > >> to load everything into a test repo, let people play 
> around with it
> > >> for a couple
> > >> of days, and then give infrasructure the nod. It should be 
> > quick and
> > >> painless for all involved.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Martin Cooper
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -bd-
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Ted Husted wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Moving to Subversion was "strongly suggested" when we
> > drafted the
> > >>>> incubator proposal. However, the developers felt that 
> the CVS IDE
> > >> tools were more
> > >>>> mature, and that they would prefer to wait before switching.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To receive the CVS logs, subscribe to
> > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Ted.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:21:00 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Sean Schofield wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>  I have a few more suggestions for the MyFaces
> > development team:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  #1) Consider moving from CVS to Subversion (SVN) when
> > >> its time to
> > >>>>>>  leave the incubator.  Apache has both types of repositories
> > >>>>>>  available. Struts just recently moved to SVN and
> > people like it.
> > >>>>>>  I'm not totally familiar with advantages vs.
> > >> disadvantages but it
> > >>>>>>  seems to be a lot more flexible.  If this is something we'd
> > >>>>>>  consider than it would be best to do it at the same time as
> > >>>>>>  MyFaces leaves the incubator.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  I would strongly encourage this. Apart from the fact
> > that all of
> > >>>>>  the ASF repositories will eventually be required to
> > move from CVS
> > >>>>>  to SVN, SVN really does have some excellent 
> advantages. The two
> > >>>>>  biggest, in my experience, are atomic commits 
> (meaning that all
> > >>>>>  changes within one commit are handled as a single
> > >> transaction) and
> > >>>>>  ease of refactoring. From an infrastructure 
> perspective, using
> > >>>>>  moving to SVN means that individual Unix accounts for every
> > >>>>>  committer are no longer required.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>  #2) Regardless of whether we use SVN or CVS, it would
> > be nice to
> > >>>>>>  email the developer's list when users check in.  This is a
> > >>>>>>  standard practice with other Apache projects and helps
> > >> developers
> > >>>>>>  keep track of changes to the codebase.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  Yep. Not sure why this isn't happening already.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>  --
> > >>>>>  Martin Cooper
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>  sean
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 

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