On 4/20/05, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The ballot is
O Yes, use SVN as it is ASF policy and although it might not be the best revision control system available, I can live with it
O No, please wait another few months, because SVN itself is unstable and unusable because of "xy" or I am a committer/contributor and I have no possiblity at all to use SVN on my system XY at the moment.
;-)
Anyway, we have a positive result for SVN, so I will prepare a transfer plan for next week.
-Manfred
On 4/15/05, Oliver Rossmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:In case to use SVN is ASF policy for new TLPs I don't understand why we
are voting on this. The ballot looks like
O Yes, use SVN as it is the best revision control system available
O Yes, use SVN as it is ASF policy to use it
So where is the point to have a vote her?
Oliver
Sean Schofield wrote:
>Oliver,
>
>One thing you should know is that MyFaces is technically supposed to
>be in SVN as a new Apache project. Apparently (according to people on
>the @infra list) this is a requirement for all new top level projects.
> (I wonder why the incubator is in CVS then?)
>
>In addition to the fact that we're supposed to be on SVN there are
>maintenance advantages for us. Basically it took four weeks to get
>Stan Silvert his karma where Manfred could have done it in a single
>day. When we finally got @infra to help us we received the lecture
>about being on SVN.
>
>sean
>
>
>On 4/15/05, Thomas Spiegl < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>+1 switch from CVS to Subversion
>>
>>On 4/15/05, Bill Dudney < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> +1 on the switch
>>>
>>>-bd-
>>>
>>>On Friday, April 15, 2005, at 07:18AM, Manfred Geiler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>><<Original Attached>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>For all WIndows users: TortoiseSVN is a good choice. Give it a try.
>>> IntelliJ users: I'm currently evaluating build #3281 with integrated SVN support. No problem so far.
>>>
>>> Oliver, yes, tool support is better (manifold) for CVS. Not really astonishing keeping the age of CVS in mind.
>>> Anyway, the ASF has decided to switch from CVS to SVN and we should not be the blocker, IMHO.
>>> Is there a certain tool you have in mind, that has bad or no SVN support by now?
>>>
>>> -Manfred
>>>
>>>
>>>On 4/15/05, Oliver Rossmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>While subversion has it's merits
>>>>
>>>>-1 from me to switch to subversion at this point in time.
>>>>
>>>>We had this discussion a few times in the past and IMHO the most
>>>>important argument against svn has not changed until today: tool support
>>>>for subversion is far from what's available for CVS so this switch would
>>>>be a step back in developer productivity from my POV. And I hate these
>>>>stuipid long revision ids subversion uses as I'm not able to memorize
>>>>them for more than a minute's time ;-)
>>>>
>>>>As for source history: as far as I followed the discussions there will
>>>>be some moving/renaming of top-level directories in the myfaces module
>>>>so this can be done on filesystem level in the repository without
>>>>loosing history (same way as we did when migrating the sources from
>>>>sourceforge to ASF). This might be not that comfortable as it would be
>>>>using svn, but it can be done.
>>>>
>>>>Oliver
>>>>
>>>>Manfred Geiler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Final release 1.0.9beta is only a question of hours now. After
>>>>>publication will be the best time to finally move our repository out
>>>>>of the incubator.
>>>>>We have already discussed and voted about the SVN issue, but there are
>>>>>some new and changed circumstances and I would like to find out if
>>>>>there are still committers who have serious objection against SVN.
>>>>>Cons:
>>>>>- IntelliJ users still do not have integrated SVN support.
>>>>>Pros:
>>>>>- SVN is the new repository technology for ASF. At the long term all
>>>>>Apache projects should have moved to SVN. So it's unwritten common
>>>>>sense that new top level projects should start with SVN from the
>>>>>beginning.
>>>>>- As you know, SVN is able to keep history for renamed and moved files
>>>>>and dirs. Just now we are discussing some serious structural changes
>>>>>(subprojects, sandbox, etc.) If we do that now in CVS we would loose
>>>>>valuable history for many files.
>>>>>- TortoiseSVN is a powerful alternative for all IntelliJ users in the meantime.
>>>>>
>>>>>So here is my definite
>>>>>+1 for switching from CVS to Subversion
>>>>>
>>>>>-Manfred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Oliver Rossmueller
>>>>Software Engineer and IT-Consultant
>>>>Hamburg, Germany
>>>> http://www.rossmueller.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Oliver Rossmueller
Software Engineer and IT-Consultant
Hamburg, Germany
http://www.rossmueller.com
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-Heath Borders-Wing
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