regards,
Martin
On 8/10/05, Alexandr J. Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Big thanks for link. I fully agree about self-designed code, but -
I see too many information about using httprequest objects in infernet, but
found only modifications of 3-4 samles, not full frameworks with wide range
of tested clients. Even commercial products, such as ICEFaces project, don't
support full range of clients - for example, ICEFaces don't work with
firefox 1.06, my favorite browser, and MS IE in My configuration, google
products don't work with My pocketPc , JS Library used in sundbox ajax
components don't work wit My configuration of MS IE ( support of ActiveX
enabled for local intranet only ) etc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:06 PM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: Re: Demo for AJAX faces componets
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, ir. ing. Jan Dockx wrote:
>
> > Sorry, Alexander, on Safari, Mac OS X, it doesn't do didly.
> > After a minute, I get a dialog that says "Reqest error, status
> : 504Message:
> > Gateway timeout".
>
> This is exactly why I keep trying to encourage people to stop writing
> their own custom AJAX comm layer and build on top of something that's
> already well tested and robust. ;-) For example, Dojo:
>
> http://www.dojotoolkit.org/
>
> If you pick just the IO profile, you'll have a lightweight and
> robust comm
> layer to build your apps on. (I'm not saying Dojo is the only
> robust layer
> around, but there are far more flaky ones than robust ones. ;)
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
> > On 5 Aug 2005, at 15:53, Enrique Medina wrote:
> >
> >> Great example using an AJAX-enabled dataTable. This can be
> really helpfull!
> >> I think that Martin's students are also working on something similar...
> >>
> >> Alexander, could you please post some reviews about your
> examples, I mean,
> >> some kind of explanation of how is it done? Or better a wiki
> in MyFaces?
> >>
> >> 2005/8/5, Alexandr J. Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>> After any little problems,my demo/test application visible from
> >>> internet.
> >>> You can see it by :
> >>> http://smirnov.org.ru/myfaces-ajax/ .
> >>> At present, it was tested with Firefox 1.06, Microsoft IE
> 6.0 and 5.0 (
> >>> from default install of Windows 2000 ) and Opera 8.02
> >>> I will be very glad for report of success/failure test on
> other browsers.
> >>>
> >>> My skills in _javascript_ less then 1 month, but long time I
> worked with
> >>> java,
> >>> c, c++ - as result,I was surprised many times by unexpected
> work of any
> >>> code...
> >>> I don't have any problems for server side part, but need any help for
> >>> build
> >>> client-side scripts... Most in creating portable code for different
> >>> clients.
> >>>
> >>> ???
> >>> Do you have a demo of this technology up and running?
> >>>
> >>> Can you start a discussion with code snippets on the mailing
> list how you
> >>> implemented that?
> >>>
> >>> How many changes would it take to get My Faces to use your approach?
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/2/05, Alexandr J. Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> I have worked ( as alpha-alpha-alpha .. ) set of custom components for
> >>> create AJAX-like user interfaces for Java Server Faces
> Applications. Main
> >>> idea - in faces lifecycle, ve have view tree on server side
> and DOM tree
> >>> in
> >>> client browser ( at present, saving tree on client side don't
> used ). For
> >>> ajax request, client send all user input of current form ( as normal
> >>> submit
> >>> request ). Request phases work as usual, but on render responce phase
> >>> server
> >>> send ONLY CHANGED parts of view ( i don't create full
> compare, but send
> >>> only
> >>> fo pre-defined parts, or submitted form ). For this I created special
> >>> AjaxContainer component, wich render it's children ( or part
> of children )
> >>> components. List of clientId's for rendered components included in
> >>> response
> >>> for client-side part of framework.
> >>> For other cases ( for example, such will work in-page Jabber client)
> >>> component can render updated xml in custom Listener, and set
> >>> responseCompleteto FacesContext.
> >>>
> >>> On client side, _javascript_ get list of rendered parts and
> update page DOM
> >>> Tree.
> >>> In result, we have two-way communications between client
> browser and JSF
> >>> view, and have sync tree's on client and server side. It's work like
> >>> common
> >>> desctop applications.
> >>> Such arch don't need create special RenderKit or change most of
> >>> components - for example, at present, I have only custom
> tag's-renderers
> >>> for
> >>> UICommand ( link & Button ) components, and have worked all
> standart and
> >>> most of custom ( tree2 and any other Myfaces components ) as
> AJAX ... On
> >>> other hand, custom renderersbased on usual Html renderers,
> and work also
> >>> in non-_javascript_ environment as simple html...
> >>>
> >>> For client side script use XMLHttpRequest object, and, if it
> don't exist,
> >>> special "_javascript_"HttpRequest. It's worked same as XMLHttpRequest (
> >>> designed with same properies and methods ), but use other idea. For
> >>> perform
> >>> request, It appended to page <script> tag. Browser load
> script ( url maked
> >>> from form action url with query string as normal GET request
> ), but script
> >>> produced by special Filter on server from Html code of JSF
> Response - as
> >>> pseudo-Dom tree of objects. Loaded script call handler
> function for update
> >>> page - same as XMLHttpRequest. Not need any iframe or other
> incompatible
> >>> technologies for non XMLHttpRequest browsers.
> >>> It can work in wide range of browsers, even in 4+ IE & Netscape???
> >>> ( in theory. At present tested with Mozilla Firefox and IE
> 5.5+ browsers.
> >>> I
> >>> need help for make _javascript_ compatible with others. )
> >>> At present, XMLHttpRequest work only in Mozilla. Code for MS
> ActiveX was
> >>> disabled since I don't can get any functionality of XML part
> for microsoft
> >>> object ! Xml parsed withowt errors. ( For xml request, i use
> in servlet
> >>> Filter nekkohtml parser, and make valid xml, with all declarations and
> >>> mime-type headers ). It make responseXML Tree, but any methods for
> >>> navigate/manipulate don't worked ! Also, elements from
> responseXML can't
> >>> be
> >>> inserted to page, don't produce event handlers etc.
> >>> Current view of code repository -
> >>> http://svn.demi.spb.ru/repository/myfaces-ajax/ Project created in
> >>> Eclipse.
> >>> Sorry for possible mistakes - my native language is Russian.
> >>> ========================================
> >>> Alexander J. Smirnov
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > Met vriendelijke groeten,
> >
> > Jan Dockx
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