>For the record, I'm ok with core 1.2 on the trunk and moving core 1.1 >to a branch for bug fixes. In fact I recommended this a while ago but >I don't remember hearing a lot of support for that idea.
Let's split the problem in two. @devs - if you are do not agree with 1.2 on trunk, please speak up or let us focus on the second branch issue. >Sean > >On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> @Sean: It's easy - I won't put in the work to do it if I can't work >> with the version I have at hand. And I can't work with it when it >> relies on TC6.0 (and I won't switch over to Glassfish right now). I >> guess that I'll not be the only one. >> >> It's as easy as that. I promise to be the one to do the merging later on. >> >> One more thing: there will be one branch only (JSF 1.2 TC 6) - the >> trunk will JSF 1.2 TC 5.5. >> >> The other branch will be our bugfixes-only JSF1.1 branch - no major >> work being done there. I'd also say that if we want to get a bugfix in >> this branch, we should get it in in the JSF 1.2 TC 5.5 as well, right >> when the bugfix is applied. With this we save ourselves the hassle of >> merging too much here. >> >> @Dennis, you don't see the necessities to start with the major >> features of the 1.2 implementation right now, even when TC 6.0 is not >> yet available? >> >> regards, >> >> Martin >> >> On 5/24/06, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Please no multiple branches. Thanks. >> > >> > Dennis Byrne >> > >> > >-----Original Message----- >> > >From: Sean Schofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:56 PM >> > >To: 'MyFaces Development', [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: JavaOne MyFaces >> > >Committers/Contributors meeting] >> > > >> > >OK so Stan is past the TC 5.5 point. Why do we need two branches? >> > >Can't we just say that 1.2 depends on TC 6.0 or Glassfish? I still >> > >think we need to do everything we can to avoid multiple branches. >> > > >> > >Sean >> > > >> > >On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> No. The current build should be compatible again - if I don't have old >> > >> information here... >> > >> >> > >> regards, >> > >> >> > >> Martin >> > >> >> > >> On 5/24/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > So does this mean that our Tomahawk releases are no longer compatible >> > >> > with the RI? That's our current problem right? >> > >> > >> > >> > Sean >> > >> > >> > >> > On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > There is no 1.1 compliant way of fixing dummyform - there just >> > >> > > isn't. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I would have gone with a single branch for 1.2 and checking in TC5.5 >> > >> > > compatible stuff only, but Stan has already worked on 1.2, and he >> > >> > > has >> > >> > > implemented also TC6 depending things, so no chance to go with this, >> > >> > > except we want to loose what Stan did, and I wouldn't. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I want to do development on the 1.1 branch for bugfixes only >> > >> > > anymore. >> > >> > > 1.2 is our future, and we should go there! >> > >> > > >> > >> > > regards, >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Martin >> > >> > > >> > >> > > On 5/23/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > Are we talking about the fix for DummyForm? Are we not going to >> > >> > > > attempt to have a 1.1 compatible fix? What about a single branch >> > >> > > > for >> > >> > > > 1.2 and only check in the Tomcat 5.5 compatible stuff? >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > I agree with Craig that you don't want to be actively developing >> > >> > > > on >> > >> > > > the trunk plus two branches. Trust me, its difficult enough >> > >> > > > managing >> > >> > > > this when we have a short-lived branch for a release. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > -1 for a long-term double branch strategy. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Sean >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > On 5/23/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > It's just that we need the 1.2 features for several things we >> > >> > > > > want to >> > >> > > > > fix right now - and TC6 is still not released, so we can't work >> > >> > > > > with >> > >> > > > > the full feature set of 1.2. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > regards, >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Martin >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > On 5/22/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > Why is there a need to have a separate branch for TC6 vs. >> > >> > > > > > TC55. Sorry >> > >> > > > > > if I missed the discussion on the need for this ... >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Sean >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 5/22/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > Hi Craig, >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > critical fixes to 1.1. -> 1.1 branch >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > major development --> trunk >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > special things for 1.2 under TC6 only --> 1.2 branch >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > With this, it should be albe to merge down the 1.2 branch >> > >> > > > > > > to the trunk, right? >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > regards, >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Martin >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > On 5/21/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > Ok, >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > one more addition to the discussion - I'll want to >> > >> > > > > > > > > branches. One for >> > >> > > > > > > > > JSF1.2 things which cannot be used together with Tomcat >> > >> > > > > > > > > 5.5 and, one >> > >> > > > > > > > > for JSF1.2 things which can be used with Tomcat 5.5. >> > >> > > > > > > > > I'd love trunk to >> > >> > > > > > > > > be the JSF1.2/Tomcat 5.5 branch, and have bug fixes for >> > >> > > > > > > > > 1.1 on a real >> > >> > > > > > > > > branch. >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > summary: >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > 1.1 --> branch >> > >> > > > > > > > > 1.2 Tomcat 6 --> branch >> > >> > > > > > > > > 1.2 Tomcat 5.5. --> trunk >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > is that ok? >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Wouldn't this mean that every change that worked under >> > >> > > > > > > > 5.5 would need to be >> > >> > > > > > > > committed to both branches? That seems like a good way >> > >> > > > > > > > to slow down the >> > >> > > > > > > > effort to achieve 1.2 compliance. >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > regards, >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Martin >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Craig >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On 5/19/06, Stan Silvert < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That would be fine. After I am done we may need some >> > >> > > > > > > > > > help from Sean. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > He was talking about putting Tomcat 6 jars in an >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Apache Maven >> > >> > > > > > > > > > repository. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > I've been building with NetBeans and not Maven. So >> > >> > > > > > > > > > someone who is more >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Maven savvy will need to update things so it builds >> > >> > > > > > > > > > correctly. I don't >> > >> > > > > > > > > > think it will be more complicated than adding and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > removing some >> > >> > > > > > > > > > dependencies. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Stan Silvert >> > >> > > > > > > > > > JBoss, Inc. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > callto://stansilvert >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > From: Manfred Geiler [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:48 PM >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: JavaOne >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > MyFaces >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Committers/Contributors meeting] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Sean, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please make a copy of the current trunk to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > /myfaces/core/branches/jsf_1_2 ? >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > After that, Stan can simply (?) merge his stuff >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > inside that. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Is that ok, Stan? >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Manfred >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You want a 1.2 branch for core only using the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > latest trunk right? I >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > can create it for you if you want ... >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sean >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Martin Marinschek < [EMAIL >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manfred, can you go ahead with that 1.2 branch? >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Thomas Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having a look at tomahawk 416 >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for creating a 1.2 branch >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Stan Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have implemented most of the new core >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > API's and fixed most >> > >> > > > > > > > > > of >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecated ones to be backwards compatible >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with 1.1 (if you >> > >> > > > > > > > > > look >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > at the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.2 javadocs you'll see what I mean). If >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you look at the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > section >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > in the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spec preface entitled "What's Changed Since >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Last Release" >> > >> > > > > > > > > > you >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > can >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a feel for what I did. I've pretty >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much done everything >> > >> > > > > > > > > > in >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > that >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of it is covered under this issue, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which just says to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > implement >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > several sections of the spec: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1274 >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe all of 1274 is complete except >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ApplicationImpl.getResourceBundle (). I >> > >> > > > > > > > needed code that reads >> > >> > > > > > > > > > the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > new >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces-context.xml for that one. However, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the ELResolver >> > >> > > > > > > > > > stuff >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > is >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done including the ResourceBundleELResolver. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also done some of the issues listed >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under General >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Changes. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > For >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each item in that list, I created a Jira >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > task. You can look >> > >> > > > > > > > > > at >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Jira and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see which ones I did. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just getting started on the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > javax.faces.webapp package >> > >> > > > > > > > > > when >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > I was >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taken off of the project. I probably won't >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit any changes >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > from >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that. I didn't touch the components or >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderer at all. With >> > >> > > > > > > > > > all >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > backward-compatible code I wrote, it >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appears that all the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > components >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still work even though they are written the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 1.1 way". >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, hopefully, what you guys will have to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > start with is a JSF >> > >> > > > > > > > > > 1.2 >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > impl >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is about half-way done and still works. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan Silvert >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JBoss, Inc. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > callto://stansilvert >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Thomas Spiegl [mailto:[EMAIL >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED] ] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:58 PM >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JavaOne MyFaces >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Committers/Contributors meeting] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for solving tomahawk 416, being >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incompatible to RI is a >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > serious >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan which 1.2 issues did you fix. Did >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you change any link >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > renderers? >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, i am >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for open a 1.2 branch >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/17/06, Werner Punz < [EMAIL >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Schofield schrieb: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm -1 on the 1.2 branch. There are >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > major issues to be >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > fixed in >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > core right now. (See TOMAHAWK-416 >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and related dev >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > discussions.) >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that Stan is anxious but given >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the lack of interest >> > >> > > > > > > > > > in >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > core >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trunk, its hard to imagine we have >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough support to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > sustain >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > this >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch. 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