no no. I think you are right (if i understand you correctly). By default the conversation lives as long as the session which means a conversation can live far longer than just e.g. 30 min. I'd admit I am also one of those who would like to see a default timeout happening, though others wont (e.g. See shale-dialog). I am unsure about it..
Lets fell a community decision. Mario -----Original Message----- From: "Martin Marinschek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, Sep 8, 2007 1:17 am Subject: Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration To: Reply- "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org> Ok, on rereading I see I did indeed take the wording wrongly. Sorry >for the confusion. > >regards, > >Martin > >On 9/8/07, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Zubin, > >> Mario specifically mentions that a setting HAS to be made - so I was > wondering why we want to force users to do this, if it is not > necessary. Might as well be that I understood his mail wrongly. > >> regards, > >> Martin > >> On 9/8/07, Zubin Wadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin, > > > > I think that's what is already happening. If nothing is set - the > > conversation dies with the session. > > > > It used to be that it was hard-wired to last 30 mins. > > > > If a specific setting is made in the config, then it supercedes the default > > which = session timeout. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Zubin > > > > > > On 9/7/07, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Simon, > > > > > > I would suspect the default should be same as session, and that the > > > added value of Orchestra is that a conversation will time out if the > > > session keeps being used, but only these conversation scoped beans are > > > not used anymore. Configuration should be available, and it is good > > > that it is, but my POV is a nice default value would be the session > > > timeout. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > On 9/8/07, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http > > > > session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout > > > > mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more > > > > quickly than the http session. > > > > > > > > Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It is > > > > now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as > > > > Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is now > > > > *no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes). > > > > > > > > I hope that's what you were asking about.. > > > > > > > > Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the > > > > website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any > > > > feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome.. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote: > > > > > Hi Mario, > > > > > >