I am very invested in Tomahawk. I agree we need to simplify things, but we MUST maintain Tomahawk. If we do not, then who will use ANY of the MyFaces component libraries if we let libraries die.

Paul Spencer


Martin Marinschek wrote:
Simon,

is your conclusion then that Tomahawk should die?

To be honest, my perception is quite different from this.

We have a large user-base, and I'm certainly all for keeping Tomahawk
up-to-date as much as possible and still improve it where we can.

And, I generally don't see the use of having 10 different ways of
maintaining components in MyFaces, the first step to a more
maintainable Tomahawk-component-set must therefore be to change the
build-system to the one used by MyFaces 1.2, Trinidad and (hopefully
also) the new commons library!

regards,

Martin

On 1/30/08, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,

As being the guy who has created the tomahawk 1.2 branch and spent a lot of
time with it, upgrading to 1.2 is not an easy task because as Simon
mentioned the code is old and crusty.

I agree that non rendering stuff should be moved to commons, I've some
candidates on my own from sandbox and tomahawk for commons.

For autogeneration, one must generate all the component metadata, this all
has been discussed on ML by the way.

I still think tomahawk 1.2 makes sense.

Cagatay

On Jan 30, 2008 11:02 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

On Jan 30, 2008 9:53 AM, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,

I see Leonard is currently doing a lot of work on something called
"tomahawk 1.2", which surprised me a little.
I have checked the mail archives, and see some discussions happening
around june 2007 regarding having a version of tomahawk specifically for
JSF1.2.

I saw the activity on tomahawk 1.2 as well, and was also a little
surprised, since nothing regarding that has been discussed here on the
ML.

But since then, we have started "apache commons". I think therefore that
rather than have a tomahawk 1.2, it would be better to split tomahawk up
into pieces that live in "commons" modules, or at least extract all the
bits
we can, then call the remaining bits something other than "tomahawk".

+1 that sounds good;

commons can be used in a wider range (like in tobago, trinidad, ice-faces,
...)
the additional UI comps (like nice (dojo-based) tables etc can become
Tomahawk)
also worth to check for promotions of the sandbox (was recently
already discussed), like
the PPR stuff.

Tomahawk code is really rather old and crusty and I don't see a lot of
point moving it as-is to JSF1.2.
Getting a release of tomahawk 1.1.7 out, however, would be a very good
idea.

+1 here as well

-Matthias

Regards,
Simon



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