Ah.. I stand corrected ;)

On Feb 13, 2008 11:48 AM, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> copied from http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes :
>
>  ... Releases may not be vetoed. ...
>
> To my understanding of this text the release manager just needs three
> +1 votes to release, even if there are -1 votes also. And as i wrote,
> this was not meant as a veto.
>
> I have no problem reverting the vote to -0 if needed to unblock the
> release.
>
> There where many questions on the list in the past, about when
> (tomahawk) sandbox gets released, and the answer was always the same:
> never.
>
> The new tree is a special problem, it is supposed to replace the
> existing one, and maybe needs a bit more testing before.  I would
> prefer to release the 1.0.15 now without sandbox and than just replace
> the tree and release 1.0.16 without any further changes.
>
> I we release this tree as sandbox, users needs to use the tcs prefix,
> if we finally replace the old tree the tcs has no longer a tree
> component.  I know this is in the nature of a sandbox, but i think
> also the nature of sandbox are no official releases.
>
> And again to make it unambiguous: this was NOT a veto vote.
>
>
> Regards,
>    Volker
>
>
>
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> 2008/2/13, Grant Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > +1
> >
> > Volker, perhaps you should modify your -1 to -0.5 in order for the
> ambiguity
> > of a veto to be removed. My understanding of reading the voting
> guidelines
> > is that -1 stops a release in it's tracks until it is withdrawn.
> >
> > With regard to inclusion of the sandbox, I think if it is documented as
> > experimental in nature in the release notes, it would be acceptable.
> >
> >
> > On Feb 13, 2008 9:11 AM, Udo Schnurpfeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I'm lucky with the sandbox in the release, because the sandbox stuff
> may
> > > be used and testet with less effort.
> > > I think there is no benefit to leave it out in the release.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Udo
> > >
> > > Volker Weber schrieb:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > -1
> > > > (Note: this is no Veto, just a personal oppinion
> > > >
> > (http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes)<http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes%29>
> )
> > > >
> > > > IMHO we should not include sandbox into a release distribution.
> > > >
> > > > We could provide a download link to a tagged stable sandbox 1.0.15
> > > > build, but not inclusde this into a official release.
> > > > If there is somthing in sandbox which should released we should move
> it
> > to core.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >     Volker
> > > >
> > > > 2008/2/11, Bernd Bohmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> I would like to release Tobago 1.0.15,
> > > >>
> > > >> This release contains only 11 changes.
> > > >> For a detail list please consult the release notes:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> >
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310273&styleName=Html&version=12312929
> > > >>
> > > >> The version is available at the staging location and the
> > > >> revision number of the release is 620572 and tagged as
> tobago-1.0.15.
> > > >>
> > > >> Staging distribution:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~bommel/repo/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebommel/repo/>
> > > >>
> > > >> Staging repository:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~bommel/repo/<http://people.apache.org/%7Ebommel/repo/>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> Bernd
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The Vote is open for 72h.
> > > >>
> > > >> [ ] +1
> > > >> [ ] +0
> > > >> [ ] -1
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Grant Smith
> >
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