Hi again,

Actually, much more packages have to be scanned. The goal of those
annotation is 0-Config, so a faces-config.xml might not even be needed
anymore in the libraries. Anyway, before implementing any kind of package
filter, I would wait for the final spec version, as long as the scanner is
designed to easily include such filter if/when the need arise.


Regards,

~ Simon

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Cagatay Civici
<cagatay.civ...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I also have some questions for the JSF 2.0 EG, like what classpaths
>> need to be scanned by default. Or the policy of dealing with runtime
>> invisible annotations (I can read them, but Reflection cannot). I'm
>> also interested in general rules regarding class/method signatures.
>> For example, do you need to implement a specific interface when
>> annotating a class with @FacesComponent?
>
>
> Afaik, only jars with a faces-config.xml under META-INF are subject to scan
> in classpath.
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Jan-Kees van Andel <
> jankeesvanan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > That sounds great.
>> >
>> > What is your general approach? Just read in the class as byte[], then
>> > use the class-file-format rules to get to the annotations sections on
>> > the class and the methods? From my quick scan of the classfile spec it
>> > seemed reasonably easy to do that...
>> >
>>
>> This line is the important one:
>> DataInputStream dis = new DataInputStream(new BufferedInputStream(new
>> FileInputStream(classFile)));
>>
>> The DataInputStream is responsible for delivering the bytecode to me
>> as easy-to-read ints, shorts and bytes.
>> The first chapter of this document specifies the relation between the
>> terms used in the spec and the DataInputStream API.
>>
>> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jvms/second_edition/ClassFileFormat-Java5.pdf
>>
>> From there it's just reading each field, which is quite cumbersome and
>> hard to get right the first time, because you need to read the spec
>> very carefully. For example, when reading a double or long, you need
>> to skip the next byte. Forget this and you get annoying errors, like
>> EOF or variables that contain nonsense.
>> But when you get the hang of it, it's not that hard.
>>
>> > I'd be interested to know the actual requirements that MyFaces has for
>> > such a scanner. For example, does it ever need to look for annotations
>> > on methods when the class itself is not annotated?
>> >
>>
>> I also have some questions for the JSF 2.0 EG, like what classpaths
>> need to be scanned by default. Or the policy of dealing with runtime
>> invisible annotations (I can read them, but Reflection cannot). I'm
>> also interested in general rules regarding class/method signatures.
>> For example, do you need to implement a specific interface when
>> annotating a class with @FacesComponent?
>>
>> > Your comment about "expose parsed classes" seems to imply that you are
>> > providing some kind of DOM-style API. I would have thought that a
>> > SAX-style API would be better, ie various bits of code interested in
>> > annotations registers callbacks for annotations it cares about with the
>> > "scanner". Then the scanner scans all jars in the classpath and when
>> > something is found that matches a "registered" annotation, then it
>> > invokes the appropriate callback. That approach would minimise memory
>> > usage, and I can't see where we would need anything dom-like...
>>
>> Well, for performance reasons you would like a SAX style API, but
>> afaics, the class file format is not very developer friendly. Maybe it
>> just takes some getting used to, but on first sight, it looks less
>> intuitive than SAX parsing an XML document. For example, class
>> attributes are placed below the fields and methods, so you don't know
>> the class annotations when reading through the fields and methods.
>> That's not very intuitive for a developer.
>>
>> My plan was not to fully initialize the classes, but just fill them
>> with the bytes read. This way, I get a little bit more structure so I
>> don't have to think in bits and bytes too much. The heavy work will be
>> done lazily. For example, I don't initialize the classes' fields
>> unless the user asks for it, probably resulting in less memory usage
>> and better performance than a fully fledged DOM model.
>>
>> But there's only one way to find out and that's implementing and testing
>> it.
>>
>> I'm gonna look at a SAX style API. Maybe it's not as bad as I first
>> thought...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> /Jan-Kees
>>
>
>

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