Hi Matthias,

I guess that's a fair point about alpha release, I'll try to think of some
good milestone.


~ Simon

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Simon Lessard
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > See inline.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > ~ Simon
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Michael Concini <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Now that the JSF 2.0 spec is getting closer to completion, I think it
> >> would be a good idea for some more planning to go into the development
> >> process for the MyFaces 2.0 release going forward.  There are several
> >> aspects of this that need to be addressed.
> >>
> >> First, regarding the changes/additions to the JSF spec.  Is anyone
> keeping
> >> track somewhere of which changes have JIRA issues attached versus those
> that
> >> still need to have new issues created?   It is getting to be hard to
> >> determine what changes might still not have issues attached at this
> point as
> >> the number of JIRA issues associated with the 2.0 spec approaches 200.
> >
> > The tickets matching the public review are all created. I'll do another
> > roundtrip with my team when the final spec is released to create the
> missing
> > ones. Basically Werner is working on the JavaScript API, Leonardo and
> > Jan-Kees help in various areas, I'm currently working on integrating
> > Facelets and my teammate are helping me with that. One MAJOR issue that
> we
> > have right now are unit tests. Leonardo proposed to attack that one, but
> > since Shale might change his mind about the future of Shale-test, I asked
> > him to postpone dealing with it just in case so that we don't have to
> work
> > on that issue for nothing.
>
> this maybe a bit off-topic, but we should start to put the shale-test
> into myfaces.
> Simon, I will write the (required) mail to the shale dev list and will
> let the folks
> here know about the outcome.
>
> >
> >>
> >> Second, I think it would be very helpful to put together a more detailed
> >> road map of when we want to target specific changes and features. I
> think a
> >> good example of how we might want to do this is what OpenWebBeans is
> doing
> >> in their road map.  They've outlined exactly what is being planned for
> the
> >> upcoming milestone work. I know something like this would be very useful
> to
> >> my team at IBM in determining which work is best for us to take on in
> any
> >> milestone period.
> >
> > I don't know if milestones are relevant when implementing a spec
> considering
> > what has to be done is fixed and static. I don't see any release coming
> not
> > passing the TCK, thus not implementing everything needed.
>
> I think that some users/contributors would appreciate a milestone or
> an alpha release.
> Once we release something that hasn't passed the TCK we have to call
> that aplha/milestone.
> Geronimo did this in the past and so does the openwebbeans podling. I
> wonder if we already
> asked for a TCK, and I am not sure if that has TCK has some fields of
> use restrictions (see [1] for
> a larger discussion on the field of use restrictions). But we should
> definitely ping SUN. Let me
> take on that part.
>
> Michael, if you are combing a committer (by providing patches) you can
> also get access to run
> the TCK (after signing a NDA) on your side. ;-)
>
> >
> >>
> >> I also think it would be a good idea to come up with a more formal way
> of
> >> keeping track of who is working on which items.  As more folks become
> >> involved, its going to become more and more likely that we'll step on
> each
> >> other's toes.
> >
> > I agree, but JIRA only allows to assign ticket to commiters and I don't
> have
> > anything better than adding a comment to the ticket for now. If you have
> a
> > better idea it would be welcome.
>
> Perhaps we could use the wiki ? Like creating an umbrella MyFaces 2.0 items
> wiki
> page, which "links" the all the subtasks / issues .
>
> >
> >>
> >> Does anyone have thoughts on any of the above?  I'd be glad to work with
> >> someone from the PMC to assist in any of the required planning.
>
> Michael, the right channel to communicate on the development of Apache
> MyFaces
> is this mailing list. If you/your team has questions, the best is to
> use something
> like [myfaces 2.0] in the beginning of the subject, so a mail can be
> filtered easily.
> We usually use other resources, like JIRA or the MyFaces wiki ([2]) to
> "organize"
> the work. You can create an account on those services and contribute some
> work
> there as well.
>
> If you have more questions, please ask them here, as the community is more
> than
> willing to answer them.
>
> -Matthias
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/jcp/sunopenletter.html
> [2] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/
>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mike Concini
> >
> >
>
>
>
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