Sophie Gautier wrote:

> >French is also global. It convers countries in Europe, Africa, Latin 
> >America and one Canadian province.
> 
> You forget Lebanese community ;)

Cool!  :-)

> >I don't know how the French team deals with this issue. I guess you can 
> >have sub-lists for that:
> >
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> no, we should avoid those distinctions. Marketing contacts are here for 
> that purpose and could use a dedicated project list for that. This is 
> not difficult to put flags in your message when you have to organize 
> something in one region or another and several in the same time.

Ok. I see your point. The NL is really not about geographical location. 
That's one of the beautiful things about it and we should keep it that 
way. 


> >You could subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] only :-)
> 
> no, this is definitly not a good idea and all what we have tried to 
> avoid with native-lang project, MarCon are here for that. Geographical 
> representation is really not the purpose.

I see your point completely. I'm convinced. :-)
The fact that NL is not based on political boundaries is great, and we 
should aim to maintain and encourage that.


> I feel as you that a home for the EN project would be a good idea. I 
> feel also that you should define more your community. If we speak about 
> MP, what should be different ? your material, your flyers ? Is it 
> because you feel that a NL project has more liberty in his project and 
> can answer more directly to his members ?

Yes. That's now I feel.

As for flyers and material, it would be good to separate "global" 
marketing material from grassroots work. I think that not having this is 
part of why so many people are so frustrated in the English lists. I'll 
illustrate:

If an NL project (e.g. Romanian NL) decided to make a business card, you 
wouldn't see the huge argument that happened on marketing just now. People 
would realize that it is just a local, grassroots thing. But in En it was 
different:

  * Most people were thinking "this is a small, little project, let's
    do it".
  * A few people were thinking "this is a marketing plan for the entire
    world community".

Inevitably, a major argument came out. Having an English NL would make it 
clear if something is a major course change for all OOo, or if it's just 
something small a couple of guys decided to do. And they would be treated 
different (they should be treated different).

Cheers,
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