FYI...
Best,
Charles.
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Hello team,
here's a short summary about the QA & l10n weekend in Essen.
Kind regards, Joost
Summary
The OOo-QA-Team and the lokalization team of the German native language
project met to hold a workshop together with Sun Microsystems staff.
The meeting at LinuxHotel (www.linuxhotel.de) was sponsored by several
parties (Accomodation by LinuxHotel, Catering by OppenOffice.org
Deutschland e.V.)
Attendees:
1.Joost Andrae (Sun, PM, QA Project co-lead)
2.Stefan Baltzer (Sun, QA)
3.Thorsten Bosbach (Sun, QA)
4.Sven Klawitter (Sun, Student at l10n/g11n team)
5.Petr Dudacek (Sun Prague, l10n/g11n team)
6.Petr Hruska (Sun Prague, l10n/g11n team)
7.André Schnabel (OOo QA Project Lead)
8.Jacqueline Rahemipour (DE Native Lang Project Lead)
9.Christian Lohmeier (OOo QA, Website Project Lead)
10.Axel Hoernke (OOo QA, DE)
11.Mechtilde Stehmann (OOo QA, DBMS)
12.Andreas Mantke (OOo, DE)
13.Erich Hoch (OOo developer)
14.Michael Kirchner (OOo, DE)
15.Regina Henschel (OOo QA, DE)
16.Simon A. Wilper (OOo, DE)
17.Thomas Hackert (OOo QA, DE)
Daily routine
Friday:
Day of arrival
Saturday:
10:00 AM Begin of the sessions
01:30 AM End of the sessions
Sunday
10:00 AM Begin of the sessions
15:00 PM End of the sessions and leave
Topics
Help Review at the DE project
Presentation of the results and talk about current status and further
proceeding
Preparation for the UI review
Presentation of the Sun g11n website containing styleguide, glossary and
discussion about this site. more to be found at
http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/global/technology/translation/
Jaqueline and Stefan want to work on report formalisms based on the
first problems found to achieve a more transparent and effective
communication
Scenario: specification, UI and help content have incosistent strings
=> The correct content can currently be queried Sun internally only
Work on the Testtool
Setup testtool
starting scripts
Presentation of the screenshot mode
Using TT in combination with a non product build (debug version) for UI
review
Analyzing results of testtool and a bunch of practice
Bug-Hunting (working together on issues)
Tests were done on four different platforms
Evaluation of selected bug documents
Checking variations of bugs (6 clicks or 2 clicks to get a crash)
Confirming issues
Filing issues
Answers to questions regarding bug handling based on real examples
TCM-Framework (Petr & Petr from Prague)
Presentation of the new TCM (Test Case Management) framework
Discussion about release tests when using TCM:
How does a good bug description look alike ?
How precise, unprecise, short or long must a test description be ?
Testversion TCM 2 Live:
http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_login.cgi
SubComponents in IZ (SBA)
Inspired by the resorting of the subcomponents of the l10n component (by
ER) SBA showed how he would like to see such a restructuring of the
subcomponents within the UI area
There was a deep discussuion about special cases and how they fit into
subcomponents
SBA mentioned that a correct handling cannot be expected by every
submitter. The resorting should assure that issues with a correctly set
component/subcomponent arrive at the responsible person initially. This
will save residence time and work but it can never be a waterproof
system. Finally the correct owner and the correct target is the
“ultimate instance”.
During the meeting it became apparent that all components need to be
checked to get meaningful subcomponents within all places.
Responsibilities within the Sun QA team (SBA)
After making clear that manual reassignment of issues will be necessary
in future there was a demand for a resposibilities list within Sun QA to
allow OpenOffice.org QA members to exculpate those 'default' owners.
Nobody was aware of the fact that there are people like MRU who need to
dispatch most of the Writer issues because he is the default owner of
most of the Writer subcomponents.
SBA told Jaqueline that at least most of the most active OOo QA members
will get such a list from himself
Survey
The meeting was really productive for all of the attendees
The relation to the community has been deepened and prejudices were solved.
There should be more of such meetings regarding l10n and QA and there
should be meetings with other native language teams as well because not
every native language community can take part at OOoConf with so many people
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