Hello Louis,
Le 26 mai 08 à 23:25, Louis Suarez-Potts a écrit :

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So I gave the first actual presentation (keynote?) at the Open Source China, Open Source World (put on by Copu) last week, in Guangzhou. Big event, very theatrical and for that very reason, important. The timing was rather perfect: MS had just announced its upcoming (but let's see...) support of ODF and its commitment to perfecting the standard using the open process.

MS was sitting in the audience. China is staunchly for real open standards now and thought he official document standard is UOF, they are keen on ODF and to harmonize ODF/UOF.

My presentation was brief--we were allotted 15 minutes or so--but I packed in the highlights and expressed our interest in working with MS on ODF in the Oasis TC. I also emphasized that OOo in particular and Foss in general gave millions and potentially billions what MS can't: access to the tools of informatic production. Proprietary apps are by definition exclusive; open ones inclusive.

The reception was enthusiastic, not only that day but subsequent. OpenOffice.org was privileged and its importance in every way appreciated.

But to convert attention to users and users to contributors is neither obvious nor trivial. The community in China--which is not identical with the ZH NLC--would benefit, as with the Indian and other regions--structure and attention. I made some proposals with the CC on this issue. Certainly, we need to work with existing companies and groups to ensure that developers and contributors of all sorts can actually do what they want to do--contribute to OOo-- without excessive frustration.

Most urgently, and I heard this repeatedly, we need developer documentation. Not user documentation but rather developer documentation: how to work on OOo. We need, too, to simplify the material we already have on the wiki so that developers and contributors can efficiently find things. Stuff is there, I know it is, but it's not easy to find for most. I think coordinating with the NLC projects, so that all point to the right pages, makes sense. And it may also make sense to use a static page as this target, eg, development.openoffice.org. (That page also could use some cleaning up.)

To conclude: The China, Indian, Brazilian communities are at varying degrees of development, with the Brazilian probably the most coherently advanced. But all shine with potential, not as troves of users (though there is that) but as deep wells of developer and contributor talent and interest. Organizing and producing material so that new contributors can start working fast is of utmost importance. I would be delighted to see if the Documentation team could work with developers to help do this, and would argue that we could reasonably use OOo's resources to this end, provided sufficient exist. The stakes, I think, are pretty high.


Thank you for this quite interesting and exciting post. Perhaps as a very first step - I understand the hardest work would come from the Documentation project- every native-language project should add this link : http://development.openoffice.org/ and add it proeminently on its homepage. Second, perhaps we should have a new, easier to remember URL for the Developer's guide: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide .... That is not something easy to remember for our Asian friends (and for nobody else, by the way). Should we get something like http://developerdocs.openoffice.org ?

Second, I would like to ask you and if you felt there was a need for custom documentation writing; am not discussing documentation localization but local, adapted to the cultural and practical needs- documentation writing. I also know there are here and there some documentation pieces that are not registered on our web site for various reasons, but this also needs to be assessed.

Third, a bit out of topic, I would like to know if you had had news about a potential UOF filter for OOo.

Best,

Charles.

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