Hi,
Le 17 nov. 08 à 19:58, Alexandro Colorado a écrit :
Great so now I read the post... and I have little to take back from
what I initially posted. I do think that you took the concept out of
context.
OOo is free software and you are free to distribuite it any form or
fashion. Having a custom build of OOo for partners should be free to
do. EuroOffice did that same as RedOffice etc. Althought I do
question the fact whenever they gave back to the source tree.
LGPL-3 also requires you to give back your modifications.
Whats the impact of having Java, NetBeans or UNICEF advertising
instead of the gulls banner in the installer of OOo.
http://www.nickhill.co.uk/ooimages/19-installation_wizard_create_server_image.png
Again we should clarify what is the level of comitment we are doing
between advertising in the software or advertising in non critical
things like, website, installer or splashscreens.
Please remind that we are trying to work like this with Mozilla and
doing a cross promotion setup to promote Thunderbird and OOo as
compliment on each other download site.
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:39:52 -0600, Alexandro Colorado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:11:10 -0600, Simon Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Hi all,
Reading Jonathan Schwartz' blog I am concerned about plans to
include
advertisements in the Sun-built binaries.
http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/the_value_of_distribution_java
I expect many users turning away from OpenOffice.org if they are
confronted with commercial messages when they "print those
documents, fax
them, copy them, project them".
Havent read the blog yet but already make me think you taking
things out of context and extreme. When I think about advertising I
remember that Java runs an add for OOo in their installer and has
brought us many new users checking out OOo.
In the best case they will turn to non-adware builds such as the
one by
Novell - I wonder if that is what Sun wants.
Not sure why novell be any different from oxygenoffice, eurooffice,
or any of the OOo installations in the distros. Anyway you can
argue that Sun logo on the bottom right part of the OOo splascreen
is advertising.
I think if Sun wants to generate some revenue from their
investments in
OpenOffice.org then they should make more work of offering
professional
support.
I agree but then again, they are trying that with StarOffice.
Also I would not be opposed to finding businesses wanting to sponsor
OpenOffice.org. They could then be mentioned on the OpenOffice.org
website, and in the about screen and the splash screen of the
binary (but
not throughout the software) and be allowed to present themselves as
OpenOffice.org sponsors in their own websites and publications
(this would
actually amount to publicity for OpenOffice.org ;))
Not sure what "through the software means". The splash screen would
qualify as "through the software", this is an idea that I had for a
while. Why not advertise the OOo community through the software.
Like adding menu items that take you to the community, sign up for
support email list, or other OOo-community related content.
Like an icon that says, "contribute" or "donate" similar way we
already do with things like "extensions".
Being sponsored and publicizing it is somehow different than
getting paid
for advertisements.
I still think that you thinking on having OOo like what Opera used
to be (with banners embeded in the software) as opposed to banners
inserted on the installer.
Java:
http://msmvps.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/spywaresucks/image_5F00_19138326_2D00_f7c9_2D00_4661_2D00_80cb_2D00_cf9fb23bf6dc.png
Opera: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/webpack/images/web/2.6.gif
What do you guys think?
Again, I should read the post first. But this is my first instict
of responding.
Sorry to make a very easy statement, but there are relevant pros and
cons here. (Cons: it's kind of inappropriate, Pros: Sun already puts
its logo on the splahscreen, etc.).
But what I would like to have is *communication* between the corporate
heads and the community before anything happens or gets decided.
That's what irritates me. The rest is detail or easily forgivable
mistakes.
If Louis/J. Parkinson have something to say, it'd be great.
Best,
Charles.
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