Hi, As discussed on the thread in general@incubator.a.o [1] <https://lists.apache.org/thread/to1xdxzlfvkt9cwdnoc4vb6otgvl2vbc>, could I kindly ask for some additional opinions from our mentors?
Thank you! Regards Wonook [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/to1xdxzlfvkt9cwdnoc4vb6otgvl2vbc <https://lists.apache.org/thread/to1xdxzlfvkt9cwdnoc4vb6otgvl2vbc> 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오후 3:37, Joo Yeon Kim <jooy...@apache.org>님이 작성: > Hello everyone. > > I also agree that the PMC chair should go to Wonook :) > Thank you all for the work and participation to lead this project to > graduation! > > Best regards, > Joo Yeon > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오후 2:06, Byung-Gon Chun <bgc...@gmail.com>님이 작성: > > > Hi Won Wook, > > > > As far as I remember, PPMC members automatically become PMC members > unless > > one explicitly mentions to exclude her or him from the PMC. > > > > Thanks. > > -Gon > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Won Wook SONG <won...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > [ACTION REQUIRED]!! > > > > > > Thanks for your support! As for our graduation, I've created a > resolution > > > to establish Apache Nemo. Please take a look at the following link, and > > add > > > yourself to the list of initial PMCs, if you want to be a part of it! > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_SSHfHlpp7pXoOueT0JZAFvcRJp8npV--dRf7yjtSE/edit?usp=sharing > > > > > > I'll let it open until the end of the week, to start the voting process > > by > > > next week. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Wonook > > > > > > > > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 8:00, Sanha Lee <sa...@apache.org>님이 작성: > > > > > > > Hi Wonwook, > > > > Thanks for your hard work! > > > > > > > > +1 for project graduation and our chair candidate. > > > > > > > > I'm glad to see Nemo's graduation process :) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Sanha > > > > > > > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 7:51, Yunseong Lee <yunse...@apache.org>님이 작성: > > > > > > > > > Hi Wonwook, > > > > > Thanks for initiating the graduation process! > > > > > > > > > > I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and > > > > > Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Yunseong > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee < > wylee.x...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about > > Nemo's > > > > > > graduation :) > > > > > > > > > > > > As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been > > > > > steadily > > > > > > working hard on project development and release. > > > > > > Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major > > > > committers > > > > > > continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the > future > > > > after > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > So +1 for graduation. > > > > > > > > > > > > And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is > very > > > > > > passionate about Nemo and has been active in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Woo-Yeon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun <bgc...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Wonook, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the process! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC. > > > > > > > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community. > > > > > > > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our > > evangelist > > > > to > > > > > > > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Gon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG < > won...@apache.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@ > mailing > > > > > thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and > > found > > > > this > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the procedures below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge > > consensus. > > > > > During > > > > > > > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of > > > > > everyone, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to > > > take > > > > > the > > > > > > > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes > > > mentors. > > > > > > > Assume > > > > > > > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be > the > > > > > chair? > > > > > > > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have > > > > someone > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months, > > then > > > > > > > quarterly > > > > > > > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72 > > hours), > > > > we > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the > > dev > > > > > list > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > all to participate in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a > > > [VOTE] > > > > > > > thread. > > > > > > > > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already, > we’re > > > > > golden, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC > > votes > > > > in > > > > > 2, > > > > > > > > we’re looking to get them here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s > board > > > > > agenda, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a > > TLP > > > > and > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > must execute these steps (usually the chair does it): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC, > > and > > > > > after > > > > > > > > that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation. > > > > > > > > Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community > > vote > > > > > > > results, > > > > > > > > and after that, we can submit the resolution to the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have several releases and I think we are ready to > graduate, > > > also > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the maturity checklist > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c/edit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > our mind. Please let us know your opinions on choosing our > > chair > > > 😀 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2022년 10월 21일 (금) 오후 11:38, Byung-Gon Chun <bgc...@gmail.com > > >님이 > > > > 작성: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonook, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you take a look at the guide doc and follow the > > process? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > -Gon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 5:01 PM Byung-Gon Chun < > > > bgc...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks for checking it out. nemo is ready to graduate. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Moving Justin to bcc. > > > > > > > > >> This thread could be on dev@, rather than private@. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:56 PM Won Wook SONG < > > > > won...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> I've checked the list, and I think we are ready to go > > > according > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >>> maturity list! > > > > > > > > >>> There's a few updates that I think I could make (ex. > update > > > the > > > > > > docs > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > >>> instructions). I'll do that soon. Can you instruct us on > > > where > > > > to > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > >>> here? > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > >>> Wonook > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오후 1:36, Byung-Gon Chun < > > bgc...@gmail.com > > > >님이 > > > > > 작성: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Wonook, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for following up. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> We have a checklist in the following doc. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Could you check it to see what's missing? > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> I agree with JB that the project is ready to graduate. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>> Gon > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:34 AM Won Wook SONG < > > > > > won...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi, I'm resending the email just in case Justin's not > > > > > subscribed > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >>>>> our private mailing list. > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> @jmcl...@apache.org <jmcl...@apache.org> Please refer > to > > > the > > > > > > email > > > > > > > > >>>>> thread below if you haven't yet so! > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>> Wonook > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오전 8:28, Won Wook SONG < > > > won...@apache.org > > > > >님이 > > > > > > 작성: > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree. If there are some procedures or guides that > are > > > > > > required > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > >>>>>> graduation, please instruct us. I'll try to process > them > > > as > > > > > soon > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > >>>>>> possible. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Wonook > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2022년 10월 19일 (수) 오후 12:52, Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > > > > > j...@nanthrax.net > > > > > > > > >님이 > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 작성: > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Justin, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think the project is ready to graduate. I asked in > > > > previous > > > > > > > > reports > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to provide the maturity model matrix to check if we > are > > > > good > > > > > to > > > > > > > go. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Regards > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> JB > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:56 PM Justin Mclean < > > > > > > > jmcl...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > Hi, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > This project has spent a while in the Incubator. > > > Several > > > > of > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> previous reports have stated, "Complete the remaining > > > items > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Maturity model". What exactly is holding up the > project > > > > from > > > > > > > > graduating? > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > Justin > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > >>>> Byung-Gon Chun > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > >> Byung-Gon Chun > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Byung-Gon Chun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Byung-Gon Chun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Byung-Gon Chun > > >