Hi,

As discussed on the thread in general@incubator.a.o [1]
<https://lists.apache.org/thread/to1xdxzlfvkt9cwdnoc4vb6otgvl2vbc>, could I
kindly ask for some additional opinions from our mentors?

Thank you!
Regards
Wonook
[1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/to1xdxzlfvkt9cwdnoc4vb6otgvl2vbc
<https://lists.apache.org/thread/to1xdxzlfvkt9cwdnoc4vb6otgvl2vbc>


2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오후 3:37, Joo Yeon Kim <jooy...@apache.org>님이 작성:

> Hello everyone.
>
> I also agree that the PMC chair should go to Wonook :)
> Thank you all for the work and participation to lead this project to
> graduation!
>
> Best regards,
> Joo Yeon
>
> 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오후 2:06, Byung-Gon Chun <bgc...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
>
> > Hi Won Wook,
> >
> > As far as I remember, PPMC members automatically become PMC members
> unless
> > one explicitly mentions to exclude her or him from the PMC.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -Gon
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Won Wook SONG <won...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > [ACTION REQUIRED]!!
> > >
> > > Thanks for your support! As for our graduation, I've created a
> resolution
> > > to establish Apache Nemo. Please take a look at the following link, and
> > add
> > > yourself to the list of initial PMCs, if you want to be a part of it!
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n_SSHfHlpp7pXoOueT0JZAFvcRJp8npV--dRf7yjtSE/edit?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > I'll let it open until the end of the week, to start the voting process
> > by
> > > next week.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wonook
> > >
> > >
> > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 8:00, Sanha Lee <sa...@apache.org>님이 작성:
> > >
> > > > Hi Wonwook,
> > > > Thanks for your hard work!
> > > >
> > > > +1 for project graduation and our chair candidate.
> > > >
> > > > I'm glad to see Nemo's graduation process :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Sanha
> > > >
> > > > 2022년 11월 1일 (화) 오전 7:51, Yunseong Lee <yunse...@apache.org>님이 작성:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Wonwook,
> > > > > Thanks for initiating the graduation process!
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that the project is ready to graduate, and
> > > > > Wonwook is the best candidate to be the chair of PMCs. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Yunseong
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:39 PM Woo-Yeon Lee <
> wylee.x...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As a PPMC member of Nemo, I am happy that we are talking about
> > Nemo's
> > > > > > graduation :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As Justin reminded us, during our incubation period, we have been
> > > > > steadily
> > > > > > working hard on project development and release.
> > > > > > Nemo has grown a lot during the incubator period, and as major
> > > > committers
> > > > > > continue to be active, I expect it to grow even more in the
> future
> > > > after
> > > > > > graduation.
> > > > > > So +1 for graduation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And +1 for Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC, as he is
> very
> > > > > > passionate about Nemo and has been active in it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Woo-Yeon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:10 AM Byung-Gon Chun <bgc...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Wonook,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for sharing the process!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I recommend Wonook to be the chair of the initial PMC.
> > > > > > > Wonook has been very active in the Nemo community.
> > > > > > > He has developed the main parts of Nemo. He has been our
> > evangelist
> > > > to
> > > > > > > introduce Nemo to various venues including a Beam summit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Gon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:01 AM Won Wook SONG <
> won...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As suggested, let's broaden our discussion to the dev@
> mailing
> > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've taken some time to look at the graduation process and
> > found
> > > > this
> > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and the procedures below.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  1. [DISCUSS] thread for community input and to gauge
> > consensus.
> > > > > During
> > > > > > > > this thread, the resolution for graduation is put in front of
> > > > > everyone,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > a chair is chosen, as is the initial PMC. My suggestion is to
> > > take
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > existing PPMC and make them the initial PMC. That includes
> > > mentors.
> > > > > > > Assume
> > > > > > > > everyone wants in, and don’t be exclusionary. Who should be
> the
> > > > > chair?
> > > > > > > > That’s up to you guys and gals :) The thing there is to have
> > > > someone
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > can submit and create a board report for the first 3 months,
> > then
> > > > > > > quarterly
> > > > > > > > after, and to be the “eyes and ears of the board” in the
> > > community.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  2. Once 1 is done (I usually leave it up for at least 72
> > hours),
> > > > we
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > call a [VOTE] thread. This should be a community VOTE, on the
> > dev
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > all to participate in.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  3. Once 2 is done, proceed to general@incubator.a.o with a
> > > [VOTE]
> > > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > > If we got at least 3 +1 IPMCs (hopefully from 2) already,
> we’re
> > > > > golden,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > looking for more IPMC consensus. If we didn’t get 3 +1 IPMC
> > votes
> > > > in
> > > > > 2,
> > > > > > > > we’re looking to get them here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  4. If 3 pass, we paste the resolution into next month’s
> board
> > > > > agenda,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > then if it passes at the board meeting we are on our way to a
> > TLP
> > > > and
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > must execute these steps (usually the chair does it):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#life-after-graduation
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > According to 1, we need to choose a chair as the initial PMC,
> > and
> > > > > after
> > > > > > > > that, we can put up a community VOTE for graduation.
> > > > > > > > Then, we should post a VOTE for the IPMCs with our community
> > vote
> > > > > > > results,
> > > > > > > > and after that, we can submit the resolution to the board.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have several releases and I think we are ready to
> graduate,
> > > also
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the maturity checklist
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c/edit
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > our mind. Please let us know your opinions on choosing our
> > chair
> > > 😀
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wonook
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2022년 10월 21일 (금) 오후 11:38, Byung-Gon Chun <bgc...@gmail.com
> > >님이
> > > > 작성:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wonook,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Could you take a look at the guide doc and follow the
> > process?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_top_level_project
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > -Gon
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 5:01 PM Byung-Gon Chun <
> > > bgc...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Thanks for checking it out. nemo is ready to graduate.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Moving Justin to bcc.
> > > > > > > > >> This thread could be on dev@, rather than private@.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 4:56 PM Won Wook SONG <
> > > > won...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> I've checked the list, and I think we are ready to go
> > > according
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> maturity list!
> > > > > > > > >>> There's a few updates that I think I could make (ex.
> update
> > > the
> > > > > > docs
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >>> instructions). I'll do that soon. Can you instruct us on
> > > where
> > > > to
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >>> here?
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>> Wonook
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오후 1:36, Byung-Gon Chun <
> > bgc...@gmail.com
> > > >님이
> > > > > 작성:
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Wonook,
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for following up.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> We have a checklist in the following doc.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Could you check it to see what's missing?
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> I agree with JB that the project is ready to graduate.
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> Best,
> > > > > > > > >>>> Gon
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:34 AM Won Wook SONG <
> > > > > won...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi, I'm resending the email just in case Justin's not
> > > > > subscribed
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>>>> our private mailing list.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> @jmcl...@apache.org <jmcl...@apache.org> Please refer
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > email
> > > > > > > > >>>>> thread below if you haven't yet so!
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Best,
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Wonook
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>> 2022년 10월 20일 (목) 오전 8:28, Won Wook SONG <
> > > won...@apache.org
> > > > >님이
> > > > > > 작성:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree. If there are some procedures or guides that
> are
> > > > > > required
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> graduation, please instruct us. I'll try to process
> them
> > > as
> > > > > soon
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> possible.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Wonook
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2022년 10월 19일 (수) 오후 12:52, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > > > > > j...@nanthrax.net
> > > > > > > > >님이
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 작성:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Justin,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think the project is ready to graduate. I asked in
> > > > previous
> > > > > > > > reports
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to provide the maturity model matrix to check if we
> are
> > > > good
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > go.
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Regards
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> JB
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:56 PM Justin Mclean <
> > > > > > > jmcl...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > This project has spent a while in the Incubator.
> > > Several
> > > > of
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> previous reports have stated, "Complete the remaining
> > > items
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Maturity model". What exactly is holding up the
> project
> > > > from
> > > > > > > > graduating?
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> >
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > Justin
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>> Byung-Gon Chun
> > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > >> Byung-Gon Chun
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Byung-Gon Chun
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Byung-Gon Chun
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Byung-Gon Chun
> >
>

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