Hi Tim,

That is most impressive, and yet terrifying at the same time. It raises even more questions for me. How does anyone know where anything is?

Probably not for discussion here but, what use is software engineering, design methodologies etc., is software development just an enormous hackathon?

Food for thought.

Many thanks to everyone who replied to my original post.

Jeremy


On 07/11/2019 03:29, Tim Boudreau wrote:
A few people asked for a visual representation. I pulled this together a
few years ago. Mostly it just illustrates why those kinds of
representations are useless at scale.

Package dependencies:

https://timboudreau.com/files/nb-packagegraph/

Classes (IIRC trimmed down a LOT):

https://timboudreau.com/files/netbeans-classes/

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:57 PM Eric Bresie <ebresie...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is this a reason to push for the UML plugin ;-)


There are no reasons to push for uml, ever :-)

-Tim




Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com
On November 6, 2019 at 9:02:49 AM CST, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org>
wrote:
Hi,
Not sure that is what you want.

((A small help can be
If you get the sources, do a first build:
ant
you can then do
ant index-layer-paths

this will create in nbbuild/build/generated layers.txt and services.txt
where given a " UI element" " mimetype" "project type" you can find
which module provide it (this is a bit too textual).
))

Maybe you want a more complex visualization, with rectangle and edge but
I guess should be some layout and "dynamic page" to filter ( or 8K monitors
:p). Modules are legion.

Best Regards
Eric
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>
Envoyé : mercredi 6 novembre 2019 15:43
À : dev@netbeans.apache.org
Objet : AW: NetBeans Design

➢ And this IMHO continues to be the best book on the NetBeans Platform:

➢ https://leanpub.com/nbp4beginners

➢ Gj

Hey Geertjan,

how does that fit in the reworked/categorized structure. Is the book
still up to date? Just asking.


Cheers

Chris


Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2019 15:34
An: dev
Betreff: Re: NetBeans Design

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 3:09 PM Christoph Theis <th...@gmx.at> wrote:

I have the same problem:
E.g., NB doesn't accept a current javahl. So, where would I find the
module where the check happened (I grep'ed for the error message and
found it). Are there dependencies? If I want to improve the error
message (right now it is hidden in the log files), how to do it?

So, summarizing, an eagles view of what NB is composed of, would be a
start. Sthg., that would help newcomers to understand the code of NB.



In many ways, the current GitHub structure provides the eagle's view you
seek:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans

Rather than it being a long list of modules, the above categorizes them
into their clusters, reflecting what you see in your NetBeans installation
directory.

Indeed, grepping is a good approach to find the code you need to work
with.

You can also search directly in the GitHub repo on-line in the web
interface.

The dependencies of any modules are always listed in the project.xml
file of a module.

And this IMHO continues to be the best book on the NetBeans Platform:

https://leanpub.com/nbp4beginners

Gj






@Jeremy: I hope I got your point.


Best regards

Christoph

On 06.11.2019 14:24, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
What specific things are you looking for?

Gj

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:05, Jeremy Cavanagh
<jeremy.cavan...@orange.fr>
wrote:

Hi All,

I was just wondering if there was a design document for NetBeans
which shows how all the pieces fit together? I ask this because
whenever I look at incubator-netbeans I have no idea of what I'm
looking at, or where to find things.

I really hope there is, particularly if it includes structure
diagrams
etc.

Regards

Jeremy

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