Here's the awesome YouTube version of that textual explication:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5Q39MuTvk

:-)

Gj


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:58 PM James Gosling <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here’s a little piece of relevant Sun history you may not know: when I was
> trying to get Sun to buy NetBeans, the
> powers-that-be didn’t like it because it wasn’t a “big play”.  They wanted
> to buy a big tool company for a lot
> of money.  They settled on Forté software, which was completely idiotic
> (they did developer tools for IBM
> mainframes), but they were expensive (>1$B).  I wouldn’t shut up about how
> idiotic this was, especially
> given that NetBeans was a much better company with a much better product.
> I was effectively asked
> “If we buy both, will you shut up?”.  I said OK, Forté crashed and burned,
> NetBeans sailed on.
>
> You should have charged Sun more.  :-)
>
> > On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > We’re implicitly keeping the Sun flag flying. :-)
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 22:27, James Gosling <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> That was a really nice talk!  Thanks for doing it!
> >>
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> [email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Several of us on the mailing list were at FOSDEM in Brussel yesterday
> >>>>> (Neil, Jan Lahoda, Martin Entlicher, Patrik Karlstrom) and it was a
> >>>> pretty
> >>>>> good event -- I think we should treat FOSDEM as a place where we can
> >> get
> >>>>> together every year and share new insights etc around NetBeans.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of the talks was by me, specifically about the state and
> direction
> >> of
> >>>>> NetBeans, it takes about 20 minutes, take a look here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/fosdem/2020/UD2.119/fromoracleapache.webm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
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