On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 06:21, Arvind Aprameya
<arvind.apram...@oracle.com> wrote:
> Neil please find my responses inline.

Thanks.  Same ..

> On 8/18/2020 7:15 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> > I think, if we are to continue delivering nb-javac to NetBeans then we
> > need to ensure support lands in master before freeze dates, ideally at
> > least a couple of weeks before, so that teething problems can be
> > ironed out before beta1.
> >
> > Which would leave us, by your schedule, needing nb-javac-15 to be
> > ready for ~Oct 1st and nb-javac-15.2 to be ready for ~Feb 1st.  Are
> > those realistic?
> Oct 1st for nb-javac-15 seems workable, however at the moment I am not
> certain if we can make 1st Feb for nb-javac-15.2

I see no-one picked up the "deliberate" mistake there! :-)   Mixing up
old and new schedules.

Assuming we continue with what we have now as per
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

NetBeans 12.2
Freeze date : Oct 15th
Release date : Nov 15-30th

NetBeans 12.3
Freeze date : Jan 15th
Release date : Feb 15th-30th(!)

NetBeans 13.0 LTS
Freeze date : Mar 15th
Release date : May 15th-30th

Which would leave us ideally having nb-javac ready for -

nb-javac-15 : Oct 1st
nb-javac-15.1 : Jan 1st
nb-javac-16 : Mar 1st
nb-javac-16.1 : Jul 1st

How feasible?  Do we need to rethink how we schedule nb-javac
inclusion related to NetBeans releases?

I guess a potential issue might come with the earlier freeze date for
the next LTS (March) if we stick with the current release plan?  Do we
expect NB 13.0 to ship with JDK 16 support?

> These updates would synchronize nb-javac with the javac source code from
> the corresponding JDK updates, thereby picking up any relevant changes,
> e.g. critical bug fixes./

Agreed, but as above wondering (unless we change how nb-javac is
delivered) about keeping the patch updates synced to NetBeans feature
releases, and backport to LTS if critical, wherever possible?
Obviously there might be a need to deliver unplanned critical fixes,
just wondering about the need to have planned ones, particularly if on
a different release schedule.

> Currently the source code is present in
> https://hg.netbeans.org/main/nb-java-x/, and the step-by-step building
> instructions are present in "readme.md" file.

Thanks.  Given other legacy things we're redirecting to being closed
down, what is the long term plan for that repository?  Could it also
be mirrored elsewhere, more open to others to potentially work with /
on too?

The above comments are mainly from my release management perspective.
Be good to get other input on plans here, particularly given different
thoughts on long term nb-javac plans?

Best wishes,

Neil

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