On 1/11/21 1:23 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 02:16, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> wrote:
I'd like to express my thought about that our 13.0 meant to be next LTS
released in May or early June, does not make much sense.
Probably not a surprise, but +1 to this.
I'd propose release a 12.4 instead, maybe a 12.5 in September
(supporting Java 17) and 13.0 in November, maybe LTS with stable Java 17
support.
Agreed that could make sense, *if* we keep an LTS, to make it the
*second* release after each Java LTS, and sync those two things up. I
know people may make the argument that we're more than a Java IDE, but
to me this would also be about the recommended JDK to run with.
Also thinking about dropping LTS as it is.
Well, until we know what it is! :-)
Yes, I meant it in that way!
And lastly, I'm feeling that having 4 releases in a year is a bit to many...
However, I'm definitely -1 to this. That's not without the caveat of
thinking there's room for improvement around API review, issue
handling, and testing, etc. leading up to freeze dates, and being
stricter about what is allowed into the release branch post-freeze.
No more "can we squeeze this change in?" :-)
I think less frequent releases actually put more pressure on each
release, and we'll end up with inevitably longer release cycles but
just as much work.
Well, this was a bit of reflection on no response to my "NetBeans 12.3
Release: Please Prepare!" email.
We shall be in the API review phase by now. However we are still looking
for a release manager there.
I would pass on that this time as work became taxing recently (lost a
team member, and inherited a about half a year tech debt).
If we drop or change LTS as is we might want to rethink what NetCAT is
/ means too? Maybe as well as a more formal NetCAT with any less
frequent LTS, we need to open up and encourage running the various
tests against daily builds throughout the year?
Best wishes,
Neil
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