+1

-brad walker

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:23 AM Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote:

> # Proposed policy
>
> * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the
> platform on JDK 8.
>
> * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run
> the IDE or platform will be JDK 11.
>
> * Future releases will take an "LTS-1" strategy for building and
> running (and CI testing) of the IDE and platform. Three JDKs will be
> supported at any one time - the current JDK, plus the previous two LTS
> releases. eg. NetBeans 20 and 21 (Nov 2023 / Feb 2024) will support
> JDK 11, 17 and 21. NetBeans 22 (May 2024) will support JDK 17, 21 and
> 22.
>
> ## Background
>
> The Apache NetBeans IDE has officially required JDK 11 to build and
> run since NetBeans 13 in March 2022. The platform (and unofficially
> the IDE) have continued to support running on JDK 8 - all modules
> requiring a higher JDK must currently be optional. Various tests have
> continued on JDK 8.
>
> This situation is causing issues as workarounds must be found for
> currently non-optional features that have dependencies or other
> requirements for running on a higher JDK (eg. Maven indexing / Lucene
> [1]). It's causing delays, complications and missed testing time in
> integration of new features (eg. problems merging support for EE 10
> [2]). Supporting an increasing range of JDKs is causing increasing
> workload, both for people and CI. Meeting the challenges of deprecated
> (for removal) features in the JDK is also complicated by the
> additional JDK requirements.
>
> ## Notes
>
> * Apache NetBeans users will continue to be recommended to use the
> current or latest LTS JDK to run the IDE.  The IDE will continue to
> support users developing projects for/with JDK 8, for as long as
> nb-javac and other dependencies allow.
>
> * This proposal specifically doesn't address when the default bytecode
> level across the codebase is increased. This can happen when required,
> but non-optional modules would be free to adopt the minimum JDK as
> they need to.
>
> * Optional modules may continue to require a runtime JDK higher than
> the minimum.  Should it become necessary, build time optional modules
> might be considered - eg. a build on the minimum JDK may exclude
> modules that will not run on that JDK at runtime.
>
> * Some modules that are of independent use (eg. lookup, utilities,
> etc.) might be nominated and advertised to continue JDK 8 support for
> the time being. This is not expected to cover the runtime container as
> a whole - https://netbeans.apache.org/tutorials/nbm-runtime-container.html
>
> * Once NetBeans 19 is released, the NetBeans 18 release branch could
> be used to backport and release JDK 8 supporting fixes, subject to any
> PMC members wanting to manage those releases.
>
> * The term "platform" is used in reference to the whole framework of
> modules that we release (eg. via Maven), not just the platform
> cluster.
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/4999
> [2] https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/4692
>
>
> ## Procedure
>
> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours.  Vote with +1, 0, and -1.
>
> Please mark your vote as binding only if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> member to help with voting admin.
>
> Decision will be by majority vote, with at least 3 binding positive votes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
>
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