Hi Neil,

very thanks for the detailed explainations. I have not completely understood 
what is the 
best way to deal with these changes in my netbeans-platform-and-ant-based 
applications 
which also affected from the changes. 

One of my applications is something like an specific IDE for a specific DSL. So 
I use a lot 
of modules of the netbeans-update center and there are also dependencys on such 
modules. So it looks that a lot of work is needed to update it ...

> We were mainly considering legacy Ant
> build downloads rather than projects registering the UCs themselves
> though.
Is there an example how to ant-download eg. TextMate module? Where are the 
builds of 
the modules we have added with the netbeans-update-center?

> > > The NBM should be on Maven, so a custom update.xml could be produced
> > > to download from there?
> > 
> > The problem is that I need the `update.xml` sooner than my module is
> > installed.
> 
> Well, I was thinking more that a useful task could be an update.xml
> that is generated from and points to the Maven artefacts.  That could
> happen here, it could happen elsewhere (eg. on the IGV side).
> Applications would still need to register it though.
> 
> > PS: another problem is 3rd party update center - IGV "inherits" it from
> > NetBeans. Those NBMs are be available, but their dependencies may not -
> > because the standard update.xml is empty...
That is exactly the some with some of my netbeans applications too.

best regards
Oliver

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