On 6/22/26 19:36, Neil C Smith wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 06:21, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Honestly, if it would be possible, i would like to see both OSGI runtime >> out. > I'm not sure that would be feasible. Even if we removed all use from > the IDE, there's the potential for platform users to be relying on it. > On the other hand, hopefully if we broke the platform it would only > affect those big companies who aren't contributing to maintenance and > act as a useful kick up the ... ;-) > >> So as of now, I'm supporting the idea of dropping Netbinox. > +1 Similar to my feeling on CoS, the profiler, and a few other > things, aspects of the IDE that are not being adequately maintained > and are causing knock-on maintenance issues should be allowed to > quietly rest in peace.
+1 I do also support the effort to remove Netbinox and switch to a maintained implementation (e.g the already existing felix impl) However: I remember quickly testing Felix after Laszlo removed the equinox tree: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/9020#issuecomment-3545330910 Ergonomics didn't work and startup was slower, however as you can see it was just a hack and it might therefore not indicate much. There is also some hope that the startup performance regression would be only visible on very first launch, since cached launches avoid many code paths. (we are currently at about 2.5s "on my system" #9308) but its still a +1 since long term maintainability > startup time best regards, michael > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
