NetBeans is a huge scary code to most people including myself. Others just don't feel or plain lack the skill/knowledge to help, or at least that's what they feel.
Takes lots of time just to get used to the concepts, structure and peculiarities of it. As with many other open source tools I contribute to it comes down to need, and effort needed. If NetBeans was unique there would be more help since there were no other options. But if your time is limited and not available or buggy on NetBeans you just look around and there are other options. Personally the open source project I got deeply evolved were unique in one way or another or I created myself due to the same reason. That's why I believe we don't see the other millions of users. On Oct 12, 2017 6:26 PM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Agree completely. And note that the NetBeans Governance is everyone here on > the mailing list, i.e., we decide together what should be in a release of > NetBeans. > > There's something in Apache called the PMC ( > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#what-is-a-pmc) which in its simplest > form is everyone who is a committer of an Apache project. > > Together, the committers, in discussion with the community at large, > decides what each release should consist of, its roadmap, etc. > > Gj > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Antonio Vieiro <anto...@vieiro.net> > wrote: > > > > > > El 12 oct 2017, a las 23:56, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> > > escribió: > > > > > >> I think, though this is just my opinion, that people simply using > > NetBeans > > > and not giving anything back at all, is something we need to actively > > move > > > away from. > > > > > > As a counterpart to this, I don't know where the millions of NetBeans > > users > > > are. > > > > Those millions of users are waiting for you to ask them what they want. > > It’s exactly the same Emilian did with yameter.com a few days after the > > release: > > > > https://twitter.com/emilianbold/status/916775452714336256 > > > > Should NetBeans support Apache Spark? Tomcat? The Go programming > language? > > R? Whatever? Just find a big pool of developers and ask them what to do > > next, what they need, what they want. There’s no Oracle direction now (or > > if there’s then it’s just a direction, not all direction), nobody is > > deciding what the future will be. So the NetBeans CEO (CEOs) must start > > asking customers what they want. > > > > Hint: Apache has a big pool of developers. > > Hint 2: Ernie’s vi emulator should be included in NetBeans 9. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:46 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> We could then focus on releasing that -- i.e., the first release would > > >> consist of all the new JDK 9 features (Jigsaw, JShell, etc), together > > with > > >> then relicensed source code. > > > > There’re no Oracle deadlines now. So the NetBeans Governance (or whatever > > is called, why am I asking this? Not clear enough?) should set a roadmap > > ASAP and start blogging about it in the net. Many users will appreciate a > > public roadmap. It gives us a sense of confidence on what to expect. > > > > And if this roadmap is decided by the NetBeans Governance _and_ the > users, > > the better. > > > > In fact a lack of roadmap can be seen as a competitive advantage, a blank > > sheet for users deciding the NetBeans future. > > > > >> > > >> I think, though this is just my opinion, that people simply using > > NetBeans > > >> and not giving anything back at all, is something we need to actively > > move > > >> away from. > > > > “Build it, and they will come” > > > > Cheers, > > Antonio > > > > >
