Ok, thx for clarification.

Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 16:44
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN

Just for the record, Oracle did not remove Ruby and UML support from
NetBeans. Sun did that. Was there a mean spirited nefarious reason behind
doing that? No, simply a problem of not having enough resources to do
everything and needing to prioritize and make choices.

I agree completely Subversion should stay as a standard part of NetBeans.
CVS, on the other hand, which has been a separate module for several years
now, is IMHO not something we should give high priority.

Gj

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> wrote:

> I’m really against the idea to remove such a big Feature. Mercurial, SVN
> and GIT are the most big Players.
> And first we should often see what happens on other IDEs. Yes I know, we
> are not IntelliJ but this is a big Player and they only decided to remove
> ClearCase because it is not developed further (Last update 2014, says wiki)
> But SVN was the latest update last year, mercurial this year.
>
> I had to work with SVN too and it was great with NetBeans, if this will be
> removed, what I should I do then? Switching to IntelliJ?
>
> As Oracle decided to remove Ruby and UML Support from NetBeans, as you can
> see it now, those Projects are Kind of dead. Ruby is I think working okish
> but not that full Feature as it should be. And UML, yeah there is easyUML
> but it is not that good atm for years.
>
> Oracle decided to remove the JS Support think 5 years or so too, because
> of what? The usage wasn’t so good?. After years it came back. Not that
> perfect but good enough to work with. I didn’t like the choice that Ruby,
> JS (Which is now in again, hooray) and UML was removed from the IDE.
>
> On the contrary, NetBeans should Support a lot of more stuff inside the
> core with the ability to decide yes I want that Feature or not. A lot of
> stuff is still missing like Go, Kotlin (Not workable I think but I will see
> it later), Galen, Rust, etc.
>
> We should clearly discuss such big Change and my 2 cents are, please,
> don’t do that.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Antonio
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. März 2018 16:09
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN
>
> Hi there,
>
> As far as I remember the support of svn in NetBeans was due to licensing
> issues. This has nothing to do with who uses subversion or not. FreeBSD,
> as an example, has been using/is using subversion successfully for years.
>
> Kind regards,
> Antonio
>
> On 08/03/18 15:29, Paul Franz wrote:
> > There has been a discussion going on in the NetBeans Users list about
> > removing support for SVN. And it was recommended to bring up the topic
> > here.
> >
> > Just to give me 2 cents into the thought of removing Subversion support
> > from NetBeans. I am against it just because older FLOSS projects and of
> > course older internal projects for corporations use Subversion. So I
> > think removing support for Subversion from NetBeans would be a bad
> > overall move.
> >
> > Just so that you have a little background on me. I use ClearCase and
> > Subversion for the corporation I work for. For my personal projects
> > located on BitBucket I use Mercurial. And for most part in both cases I
> > use the command-line for most of my source code control interaction. So
> > I know that I am an outlier, but my fellow developers need to GUIs to
> > interact with source code control.
> >
> > Paul Franz
> > Senior Principal Applications Engineer
> > Oracle Transportation Management
> >
> >
> > Forwarded message:
> >
> >> From: Claus Lüthje <claus.luet...@thetop.ch>
> >> To: Eduard <i...@dejongfrz.nl>
> >> Cc: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?
> >> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:08:24 +0100
> >>
> >> Many customers I worked with here in Switzerland still use SVN, too.
> >> I completely understand the urge to leave SVN for eg Git, but reality
> >> is slower …
> >>
> >> Claus
> >>
> >>> Am 08.03.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Eduard <i...@dejongfrz.nl>:
> >>>
> >>> I'm using SVN.
> >>>
> >>> I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would greatly
> >>> reduce the usefulnes of NB for me.
> >>> --
> >>> Eduard
> >>>
> >>> David Heffelfinger wrote:
> >>>> Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers.
> >>>>
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan <brett.r...@gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:brett.r...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
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