>> 3. If we use the mirror system we'll be losing statistics. AFAIK the >> mirror network does not consolidate server logs.
>Do we have logs from the webserver? We don't need the statistics from the > mirrors, but statistics from the redirects would be nice. Not really, there is something really basic from Apache side but nothing from the mirrors afaik. So, statistics is going to be really spotty. --emi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 5 April 2018 8:13 PM, Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Antonio [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Some comments/ideas: > > > > 1. I think we should open an issue with INFRA so they are aware ouf our > > > > ~3TB/month load requirements. I imagine they'll prefer we use the mirror > > > > network. > > > > 2. We can make http://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/ redirect to > > > > wherever we want (we don't need a specific domain for that) by using a > > > > simple .htaccess file (much like [1]). We can do this ourselves, today. > > Let > > > > me know if you want to try it out with, say, the 9.0-beta files. I think > > > > Infra should validate that our web server is going to hold the load, > > though. > > > > That would surely be a nicer URL. > > > 3. If we use the mirror system we'll be losing statistics. AFAIK the > > > > mirror network does not consolidate server logs. > > > > Do we have logs from the webserver? We don't need the statistics from the > > mirrors, but statistics from the redirects would be nice. > > Jan > > > 4. Now that we're talking about releasing NBMs maybe we should start > > > > thinking on releasing stuff to Maven central (as NetCAT required). How > > are > > > > maven central artifacts generated? I don't think we have this tooling > > under > > > > the Apache umbrella, have we? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Antonio > > > > [1] > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/ > > > > master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess > > > > On 05/04/18 16:15, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > > > I believe this is about NBMs built from the standard distribution. Good > > > > > > among others for dot-dot updates, where the users could just download > > > > > > updated modules, not the whole distro. > > > > > > I think the current overall idea (based on ideas by many other people, > > > > > > like > > > > > > Jarda): > > > > > > -release the NBMs and the catalog as part of the convenience binaries > > > > > > (this > > > > > > will probably need a little tweaking) > > > > > > -have a (NetBeans 9.0-specific) URL setup on the netbeans-vm, like e.g.: > > > > > > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/updates/9.0 > > > > > > which would do a redirect to the Apache release using: > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua?action=download&filename=<path> > > > > > > this should automatically redirect to mirrors. > > > > > > Not sure if we can fully test this without doing a release, but my plan > > > > > > for > > > > > > a near future was to change our continuous build (one of them) to produce > > > > > > the NBMs and then ask to have the redirect setup - then we could do at > > > > > > least some testing. > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > We need to nail down this one and I think the key blocker is that there > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > different ideas about what this is about: > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-330 > > > > > > > > The above is not about the Plugin Portal. > > > > > > > > If I understand it correctly, this is about where the NBMs (which ones? > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > many? do we know?) and the related XML file (a.k.a. update center) will > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > hosted. > > > > > > > > AFAIK, the XML file and the NBMs could be put onto our Apache NetBeans > > > > VM > > > > > > > > just like Synergy: > > > > > > > > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy > > > > > > > > The key question remains, which NBMs are we talking about here, > > > > > > > > applicable > > > > > > > > to the 9.0 release, I think. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
