That's a very 'global' view, William. The whole idea though is to improve the project in some areas I find of need. Because I don't have the time or desire to do that myself.
I don't believe my tiny bounty will change the course of the whole project. Also, it's not about security, it's normal user stuff, mostly UI related. Ubuntu had a cool project: 100 paper cuts. "Papercuts are trivial to fix, but annoying bugs." So, I'm thinking along the same lines: stuff that doesn't take lot of time to fix, but that would really help the workflow. I see there's really no way to handle this. I'll just try something at some point and see how it goes. --emi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 11 April 2018 7:55 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. <wlt...@o-sinc.com> wrote: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:28:25 +0200 > > Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM, John Muczynski johnst...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > ...Just because something has a bounty doesn't mean that somehow it > > > > > > can bypass the normal commit process... > > > > Exactly. > > > > Many Apache committers are paid to work on our projects but that > > > > doesn't allow them to say "I need this commit to go in because my > > > > employer needs it". > > I haven't looked into that process, to see if various projects have > > some sort of leadership and direction. If commits go against such > > direction if the are accepted. rejected etc. > > > To get my commits in, I need to find a technical reason why they add > > > > value to the project. > > > > It is exactly the same if commits come from people paid to work on > > > > NetBeans by bounties. > > Google and Sony have their way with Gentoo. Samsung has its way > > with EFL. Their commits go through the normal process... > > Ever hear of Chrome OS? Or Google OnHub router. Or Playstation Now? > > While not nefarious, they are able to fund areas of Gentoo development > > as they see fit for their commercial interests. Simply by hiring Gentoo > > developers, who go through normal commit process. But their > > activities have nothing to do with Gentoo Foundation. > > I see similar happening in the Enlightenment/EFL community, with > > Samsung using EFL as the basis for Tizen. Samsung is sponsoring > > development there and has caused some rifts in the community. > > They lack a foundation or anything to make that situation better. > > So Samsung is essentially leading EFL development now. Not that it is > > bad per se. But their interest is not FOSS.... > > Thus each can do things that are technically beneficial to them, and > > maybe such to the project. But without going through a Foundation or > > leadership via some means. Nothing is there to ensure it benefits the > > project... Which at times can cause harm to the community. Neither > > Gentoo nor EFL/Enlightenment communities are thriving. While companies > > are making money off both... Its like exploiting FOSS in a way. > > Not to mention the whole giving back thing... Like bounties, some devs > > get money from those companies, but does not benefit the project or > > community a whole. If that money flowed through the foundation it may > > go to other uses for a wider community benefit. > > Just examples, but they are real world examples. I would imagine > > companies may have commercial interest in Netbeans. Now that it is not > > under Oracle. Though Netbeans is just an IDE, so likely less beneficial. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > William L. 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