On 06/24/2018 02:38 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Also, the NetCAT team seems to be split into sub-groups called > 'tribes' and they have a 'leader' which seems to be the only one that > 'can label a bug with WAIVER tag'. > > This seems rather against the Apache way, as you either are a > committer or not (or part of the PMC or not). Although 'after > reaching consensus within his/her tribe' makes it sound like there's > a vote going on, we cannot restrict voting to a subgroup under > Apache, afaik; everybody is allowed to vote.
In practice, it is (or should be) a discussion within the tribe to see which issues should be *proposed* as blockers. Tribe leaders are mainly responsible for dividing up the work of going through the test specs and making sure tribe members are on schedule. > The 'Community Acceptance survey' is interesting as it seems to allow > non-binding votes to block a release. This sounds interesting, but > it's also not the Apache way. Of course, if many non-binding votes > point toward something bad, we can decide to take that into account, > but it's not automatic. I agree with what you're saying here; we're in a new world now. The PMC is the body that must make decisions about whether to release; NetCAT should be seen as an advisory body. Just as in the past, when NetCAT reports a bug, committers may clarify or override the severity. As a long-time NetCAT team member, I'm certainly not trying to minimize its importance. If NetBeans users feel strongly enough to participate in NetCAT (it's a lot of work to go through those test specs!) and make a point about an issue, it should be taken very seriously, and the role of NetCAT in the release process should be clearly defined. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
