Really? Wow. Okay, another option (still preferable to a .pkg IMO) is to simply distribute the application bundle in zipped form. That has the advantage that you also don’t need a Mac to create it. In most cases Safari would automatically extract it and leave the application sitting in your Downloads folder.
Regards, Scott > On Aug 12, 2018, at 12:19 AM, Tim Boudreau <niftin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This debate was had once about 14 years ago - and the decision to go with > .pkg installers on Mac OSX was made for this reason: There were a lot of > "NetBeans is unusably slow" reports on OSX. > > The reason? A LOT of users never unpacked the .app - they were running it > directly from the mounted, compressed .dmg image. It turns out that's not > that unusual. > > Random access Java classloading does not play nicely AT ALL with the > compression used for .dmg images. > > I strongly recommend not repeating that mistake. > > -Tim > > Only Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 1:44 AM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The macOS “installer” should be nothing more than a disk image with the >> application bundle. It should not be a .pkg file that might require admin >> privileges as it would be a drag and drop install. The user should be able >> to drag the app bundle wherever they want. >> >> Scott >> >>> On Aug 10, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Carl Mosca <carljmo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I work in a place where you need admin rights to install on Windows as >> well >>> but that's a policy. >>> >>> As far as the MacOS goes, it's based on BSD. >>> >>> Therefore if /Applications is owned by root:wheel (or something similar >>> that's not the current user), you need privileges to "su or sudo" in >> order >>> to complete the installation process. That is to say, the filesystem is >>> requiring the elevated access which in my opinion is a good thing. >>> >>> One could/should be able to install in his/her home directory and not >> need >>> such access and I have seen apps take that approach as well. >>> >>> Carl >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:57 PM Will Hartung <willhart...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Kenneth Fogel < >> kfo...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, an installer is nice but all it should do on the Windows platform >> is >>>>> unzip NetBeans in the folder of choice and add a shortcut. >>>>> >>>> >>>> For some reason that I don't understand, and perhaps someone could >> explain, >>>> the installer for MacOS requires Administration privileges. >>>> >>>> Being that it, too, is essentially a "zip file" (it's an application >>>> bundle), I never really understood why it needs admin privs to install. >>>> >>>> Maybe it's some Mac specific thing. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl J. Mosca >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >> -- > http://timboudreau.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
