I don't think anyone is talking about "having a large, established web
presence just vanish in to the ether".

Why would anyone anywhere suggest that? :-) The idea isn that netbeans.org
is going to be rerouted to netbeans.apache.org.

Gj

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM Will Hartung <willhart...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@apache.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Yes - I think the only requirement at this point is that the
> > *ownership* of the domains is transferred to Apache, moving the
> > content is a separate concern.
> >
>
> Is it even possible for the Apache foundation to distribute older artifacts
> if they have, for example, GPL licensed parts within them?
>
> Can they do it from "netbeans.org" as some sort of "off shore shell
> company" kind of thing? (since it's "not Apache", yes I know I'm splitting
> hairs).
>
> The NetBeans Apache Git server contains GPL code (since, as I understand
> it, it has direct donations from the Oracle contribution that were
> committed before the license change). It's pedantic, but how does this
> licensed code stand under Apache policies. Is it allowed as a "legacy"
> component? Can the original netbeans.org content also be grandfathered in
> under a similar exemption?
>
> One of the issues, to me, is the impact of having a large, established web
> presence just vanish in to the ether, which is what would happen were
> netbeans.org to either just "go away" or be significantly refactored. The
> destruction of java.net was, and still is, a painful event to the Java
> community.
>
> If netbeans.org is to be significantly redone, is there a reason for it at
> all beyond a redirect to netbeans.apache.org? Are there other Apache
> projects that have any significant web presence outside of the *.
> apache.org
> system?
>
> There is a LOT of stuff and history at netbeans.org. It would be nice
> (IMHO) if it were to remain mostly intact, and even maintained, as an
> anchor within the NetBeans community, especially the old artifacts and
> releases but also all of the documentation and tutorials. I'd hate for it
> to have to be a project to port all of those pages to someplace else.
>
> But I just don't know how much of a brand presence NetBeans can have out
> side of Apache. Not sure what the governance guidelines are like for that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Will Hartung
>

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