I don't think anyone is talking about "having a large, established web presence just vanish in to the ether".
Why would anyone anywhere suggest that? :-) The idea isn that netbeans.org is going to be rerouted to netbeans.apache.org. Gj On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM Will Hartung <willhart...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org > > wrote: > > > Yes - I think the only requirement at this point is that the > > *ownership* of the domains is transferred to Apache, moving the > > content is a separate concern. > > > > Is it even possible for the Apache foundation to distribute older artifacts > if they have, for example, GPL licensed parts within them? > > Can they do it from "netbeans.org" as some sort of "off shore shell > company" kind of thing? (since it's "not Apache", yes I know I'm splitting > hairs). > > The NetBeans Apache Git server contains GPL code (since, as I understand > it, it has direct donations from the Oracle contribution that were > committed before the license change). It's pedantic, but how does this > licensed code stand under Apache policies. Is it allowed as a "legacy" > component? Can the original netbeans.org content also be grandfathered in > under a similar exemption? > > One of the issues, to me, is the impact of having a large, established web > presence just vanish in to the ether, which is what would happen were > netbeans.org to either just "go away" or be significantly refactored. The > destruction of java.net was, and still is, a painful event to the Java > community. > > If netbeans.org is to be significantly redone, is there a reason for it at > all beyond a redirect to netbeans.apache.org? Are there other Apache > projects that have any significant web presence outside of the *. > apache.org > system? > > There is a LOT of stuff and history at netbeans.org. It would be nice > (IMHO) if it were to remain mostly intact, and even maintained, as an > anchor within the NetBeans community, especially the old artifacts and > releases but also all of the documentation and tutorials. I'd hate for it > to have to be a project to port all of those pages to someplace else. > > But I just don't know how much of a brand presence NetBeans can have out > side of Apache. Not sure what the governance guidelines are like for that. > > Regards, > > Will Hartung >