But if you add them after the fact who vets for them? I imagine there
must still be some checks to see that the binary was produced from a
voted source and that the binary works or something. This means some
sort of (P)PMC vote the least to me. Or do we handle this on private@?

--emi

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On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 1:58 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 12/26/18 11:56 AM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> >>> 1. If we were to create an installer for installing Apache NetBeans (i.e.,
> >>> no JDK included, simply for installing NetBeans), could we distribute that
> >>> from our Apache NetBeans site?
> >>
> >> See http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
> >> You can, with various notices and caveats in mind, create convenience
> >> binaries, but the project cannot vote on them for obvious reasons, nor
> >> do they count as an official release. There are signing options
> >> available for packages as well.
> >
> > I read there that "binary/bytecode packages MAY be distributed
> > alongside official Apache releases". So the packages must also be
> > available on Apache infrastructure.
> >
> > It doesn't mention if we can publish binaries after a release. For
> > example, we have another thread about publishing Ubuntu Snap packages,
> > but those binaries were not part of the release email vote thread, nor
> > are they on dist.apache.org. If we can't vote on new binaries, do we
> > need another release to publish new binaries?
>
> Convenience binaries are not part of the official project release, you
> could add them whenever, provided you remember to properly let people
> know that they are not what we consider official releases.
>
> the TL;DR of this discussion is; you cannot vote on something you cannot
> verify, so convenience binaries, while they may be distributed via our
> mirror system, are not part of the official release, and as such, you
> could add them after the fact.
>
> >
> >>> 3. What's the status in legal terms of Emilian's CoolBeans, i.e., can
> >>> anyone take Apache NetBeans source code at any point of the release and
> >>> rename it and then provide it in their own way? (I'm assuming Yes here, 
> >>> but
> >>> would be good to have that very clearly established.)
> >>
> >> Yes, provided they keep the notices intact and do their best to prevent
> >> confusion between their fork and the official product.
> >
> > Cool! ;-)
> >
> > --emi
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