Makes sense, perfect.

Gj

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:43 AM Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Let's set up a plan to gradually allow the users to navigate to
> different tutorials. For instance, let's allow them to visit the "java"
> tutorials but not the "C++" tutorials (not at least until we support C++).
>
> We will have to manually review many pages. For instance, this one:
>
> http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/java/quickstart.html
>
> Has some minor problems with images and at the bottom of the page
> there's some weird table that we may want to remove.
>
> For instance, in the coming weeks we want to review
>
> - Java tutorials.
> - PHP tutorials.
>
> And then prepare for the Enterprise donation
> - Java EE tutorials.
> - Web services tutorials.
>
> And then for the C++ donation:
> - C++ tutorials
>
> etc.
>
> Let's think of the order of the tutorials we want to review and let's
> set up a master JIRA issue (Kanban board?) to track all the tutorial
> donations, with subtasks/subissues for each section of the documentation.
>
> I'll try to do that in the coming days (as today I'm busy with the three
> wise men [1]).
>
> Kind regards,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi#Spanish_customs
> A tradition in Spain where "Los Reyes Magos" give presents to children,
> quite similar to Santa in other parts of the world.
>
>
> El 06/01/2019 a las 11:33, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> > Excellent progress!
> >
> > I have squashed and merged.
> >
> > I believe this page https://netbeans.apache.org/help/index.html should
> be
> > seen as the future version of this page
> https://netbeans.org/kb/index.html.
> >
> > Could we have 'kb' (i.e., knowledge base) in the URL where there
> currently
> > is 'help'?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:16 AM Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Please see https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/97
> >> with the netbeans.org tutorials/trails automatically transformed to
> >> asciidoc. This is still a work in progress.
> >>
> >> Main features:
> >>
> >> - 3rd donation tutorials automatically converted to Asciidoc with
> >> incubator-netbeans-tools
> >> - This is, we removed netbeans.org specific HTML stuff.
> >> - Copied images automatically in a 'images' subdir near the documents.
> >> - Added syntax highlighting support for different languages (also wiki
> >> pages).
> >> - Files are stored in the same locations as in netbeans.org, to ease
> >> migration (i.e., kb/docs/, kb/docs/java, etc.)
> >>
> >> Tutorials are _NOT_ linked from the home page, this is, there's no link
> >> from the website to the tutorials as of yet: users won't be able to
> >> navigate to the tutorials.
> >>
> >> When/if merged, we will have to navigate directly to a tutorial or to
> >> http://netbeans.apache.org/kb or to http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/
> >>
> >> The idea is to decide which tutorials we're linking from the web. For
> >> instance, we may not want to link to C/C++ tutorials yet (because we
> >> don't support it yet), but we may want to link to PHP tutorials.
> >>
> >> So the basic plan is to:
> >>
> >> - Decide which subdirectories we'll link from the main web.
> >> - Manual fine-tuning of content (missing images, removing of manual
> >> table of contents, etc.).
> >>
> >> I'll be offline most of the day today, but will try to set up a plan in
> >> the coming days as time permits.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Antonio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> El 05/01/2019 a las 10:51, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> >>> It seems they're in your GitHub, right now, i.e., github.com/vieiro:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/vieiro/incubator-netbeans-website/blob/feature/third-donation-tutorials/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/java/quickstart.asciidoc
> >>>
> >>> Is this correct, right now, or is there a link on the Apache NetBeans
> >>> GitHubs somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:20 PM Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Good plan! Thanks, Geertjan!
> >>>>
> >>>> El 30/12/2018 a las 12:24, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> >>>>> Great and thanks for all the work!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    From my point of view, it would be simplest if you'd create a
> list of
> >>>> tasks
> >>>>> on the Wiki, each task being an issue so that we can track via JIRA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So far, it seems to me that the best approach is to simply take the
> >> lead
> >>>>> and put those tasks out there as a starting point, and then others
> will
> >>>>> take it from there. A discussion that is too open is not going to get
> >> too
> >>>>> many responses, it seems so far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    From my end, I've been working on netbeans.org -- especially the
> >> front
> >>>> page
> >>>>> where every link AFAIK now point to netbeans.apache.org. Since a few
> >>>>> minutes, the netbeans.org/downloads page redirects to the Apache
> >>>> NetBeans
> >>>>> download page.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In short, until we have all the documentation that is on
> netbeans.org
> >>>>> safely housed and structured at Apache, and we have redirects etc in
> >>>> place,
> >>>>> netbeans.org will as far as possible simply have all/most of its
> links
> >>>>> redirect to netbeans.apache.org.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gj
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 7:35 PM Antonio <anto...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As you know the current https://netbeans.apache.org was launched
> >> about
> >>>>>> one year ago and has gone through different enhancements.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> During this year we've added some wiki pages, some content, our
> >> download
> >>>>>> pages are compliant with Apache requirements and we're also
> compliant
> >>>>>> with all Apache Whimsy requirements [1].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Before starting integrating the tutorials [2] and before leaving the
> >>>>>> incubator we may want to prepare some enhancements. These may range
> >> from
> >>>>>> look and feel enhancements (banners, images, icons, typography
> >>>>>> enhancements, etc.) to content enhancements (sidebars, banners,
> etc.),
> >>>>>> or some repository enhancements (removing the 'bits.netbeans.org'
> >>>>>> directory, for instance, as this is now handled elsewhere) or
> tooling
> >>>>>> enhancements.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What do you think could be improved? Are there any volunteers for
> the
> >>>>>> look and feel enhancements? Do we want to start a "web design
> contest"
> >>>>>> much like the "NetBeans Logo Contest" we did for our logo? Do we
> want
> >> to
> >>>>>> host a NetBeans blog there as well?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ideas and request for enhancements would be most welcome. Let's
> >>>> brainstorm.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>>>> Antonio
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/netbeans
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://github.com/vieiro/incubator-netbeans-website/tree/feature/third-donation-tutorials/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs
> >>>>>>
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